[SPOILERS] Oxy and suttree save the day, again!

[Kurumi]

Oh, and we need open a team email account. Any suggestion?

We need? Really? What for? It is a Pitboss... I assume diplo?
AP is not strong enough to care about banning stuff... Let them decide, I don't care much.
Just wait for the start HBHR Then we'll be able to think about anything.

[HBHR]

Sure, Maga request an email account to every team, for diplo issues

[HBHR]

our team account is: ecpb14@gmail.com
PM you with account password

[Kurumi]

So HBHR, what's your experience in multiplayer civ games? What other games do you play?

[HBHR]

Actually i'm playing a Next War mod pitboss game in the Spanish Forum, without diplo, and two other in CFC forum: Red Rum in advanced start and The MED ( in fact i subs someone a few ago turns, and i'm sandwiched between the two superpowers of the game )
In SP usually play on Emperor on giant map with 18 civs and still competitive until the end, and sometimes win. Actually play on Inmortal with Darius, and is very powerful (even if have not horses at all).
BTS is the only game i'm playing already, absolutelly the best game ever...for me, of course

And what about you?

[Kurumi]

I forfeited a diplo game on a polish forum because of bad attitude of players there and shameful admin decisions (we had one... two actually) and playing lots of games here. Played two free for all games... won one. I don't know how exactly I am in SP, I just play around. Watched enough Sulla, TMIT, Chris to call myself decent though.

[Oxyphenbutazone]

You guys mind if I ded-lurk you? I've posted in a couple of the players threads but it's not like I've received any spoiler information, thought I guess it would be prudent to clear it in the organization thread.

[HBHR]

You guys mind if I ded-lurk you? I've posted in a couple of the players threads but it's not like I've received any spoiler information, thought I guess it would be prudent to clear it in the organization thread.

Of course, welcome a board...will be an honor for us

[Kurumi]

You guys mind if I ded-lurk you? I've posted in a couple of the players threads but it's not like I've received any spoiler information, thought I guess it would be prudent to clear it in the organization thread.

Great Oxy, welcome to us!

[Oxyphenbutazone]

Great! Should be fun

So let's discuss pick strategy: this is my ranking of traits from best to worst. Obviously some preference there, but it'd be nice to know if we're more or less on the same page.

FIN
EXP
CRE
SPI
IND/ORG
PHI
IMP
CHA
AGG
PRO

As for civs, we're seeing starts before picking so IMO we should pick based off of starting techs that work well with the capital. The obvious exceptions being Inca and India. Good civs by starting tech:

Hunting:

Zulu(Impi,Iknhandi,Agriculture, Hunting)
Mongolia(Keshik,Ger,Wheel,Hunting)
Khmer(Ballistaphant,Baray,Mining,Hunting)
Vikings(Berserker,Trading Post, Fishing, Hunting)
Aztecs(Jaguar, Sacrificial Altar, Mysticism, Hunting)
Holy Roman Empire(Landsknecht, Rathuas, Mysticism, Hunting)

NOTE: The last two should really only be considered if our primary food source is deer, otherwise the starting techs are too crappy

Agriculture:

Inca(Quecha, Terrace, Mysticism, Agriculture)
Egypt(War Chariot, Obelisk, Wheel, Agriculture)
China(Cho-ko-nu, Pavillion, Mining, Agriculture)
Sumeria(Vulture, Ziggurat, Wheel, Agriculture)
France(Musketeer, Salon, Wheel, Agriculture)
Ottoman(Janissary, Hamman, Wheel, Agriculture)
Zulu(Impi,Iknhandi,Agriculture, Hunting)

Fishing:

Rome(Praetorian, Forum, Mining, Fishing)
England(Redcoat, Stock Exchange, Mining, Fishing)
Greece(Phalanx, Odeon, Hunting, Fishing)
Native America(Dog Soldier, Totem Pole, Agriculture, Fishing)
Carthage(Nubian Cavalry, Cothon, Mining, Fishing)

It's not really worth picking any civs for their starting techs after this, so I'll just list some civs that are still noteworthy even with meh techs

India(Fast Worker, Mausoleum, Mysticism, Mining)
Maya(Holkan, Ball Court, Mysticism, Mining)
Mali(Skirmisher, Mint, Wheel, Mining)
Byzantium(Cataphract, Hippodrome, Wheel, Mysticism)
Corea(Hwacha, Sewon, Mysticism, Mining)

Synergistic Trait+Civ Pairings to consider

CRE Maya, Greece
EXP Inca, Carthage
ORG Sumeria, Holy Rome, Aztecs
CHA Mongolia, Byzantium
AGG Greece, Rome, Sumeria, Zulu, France

I generally think people tend to overvalue synergy as opposed to just picking the most powerful combination possible. For instance, I wouldn't go out of my way to pick PHI Corea or IND Mali. That said, I think the above pairings are powerful enough to consider when picking.