EitB v13 Wishlist/Progress

[Dreylin]

Looks like Pillar of Chains may be bugged (did we know that already?) with respect to cancelling civic anger.

[Bobchillingworth]

I know that the latest versions come bundled with BUG, which we don't want, but is there any way to get the most recent MNAI AI improvements integrated in EitB?

[Qgqqqqq]

Thanks for the reports. It sounds like Longshoreman had the dumping units effect hardcoded.


@Bob: Not easily.


How resistant is the community to a BUG merge, btw? Because I'm reaching the point where I consider it might be worthwhile just for the easier access to ancillary features/fixes developed by Tholal, Terkhen and MagisterCultuum.

[Bobchillingworth]

Is there some way to make BUG optional?

[Mardoc]

How resistant is the community to a BUG merge, btw? Because I'm reaching the point where I consider it might be worthwhile just for the easier access to ancillary features/fixes developed by Tholal, Terkhen and MagisterCultuum.

I don't really know what's involved in BUG. I seem to recall it being banned in Adventures for some reason?

[DaveV]

I stopped playing single player games with MNAI a couple years ago following the aggressive AI "improvements". Having a stack of 20 warriors and scouts move halfway across the map to attack me on turn 50 is not my idea of fun. If I managed to survive the initial rush somehow, the AIs seemed to cripple themselves with unit maintenance. I haven't been keeping up with the developments, so the latest builds may be better than I remember.

A couple people really dislike BUG because you get too much information. The type of purists with that opinion probably wouldn't be interested in FfH anyway.

[Qgqqqqq]

It was banned in Adventures due to a longstanding site policy of no bean counter mods in tournament games.


Sareln trying to make BUG an option is what made him stop working on the mod, so I have no intention on working futilely on that. That being said, BUG is one of those things you can turn off most of the features of, and when I play MNAI I don't notice many differences.

[Aurorarcher]

I don't have any objection to BUG. Afterall, all the stuff it shows (like GP counter etc.) can be seen otherwise as well with more work.

[Bobchillingworth]

I think what made Sareln stop working was him getting a job and married :P


I'm not a fan of BUG, but if nobody else cares I can live with it.

[Qgqqqqq]

:P A lot of things, sure. But on the coding side, that was the dead end he was in.


I don't really have a horse in this race, really. But a lot of it to me is that the main reason I shoot down BUG when it's put to me at CFC is the RB consensus that I remember from the previous discussions, rather than any convincing arguments I put forward.