NO PLAYERS- 53 reasons why i shouldnt make maps

[Mjmd]

Except no one joined in the dogpile against Scooter and now Scooter is just snowballing WAY ahead.

[sunrise089]

Is he? With the benefit of another turn Commodore looks in a stronger position than Scooter to me.

[sunrise089]

Final outcome of HA attack looks absolutely brutal. Like 10 dead HAs to kill 3 spears and a warrior and capture nothing.

[Sullla]

It's such a shame because scooter has been playing such a strong game thus far. But the attack never made much strategic sense to me; Automated Teller was already effectively crippled from the early city razing and 8-10 horse archers wasn't going to be enough to capture and hold territory. At best scooter could raze the Stonehenge city on his border, and what value did that really have anyway? They had a stable border with nothing contested by either side. There was no way that scooter could ever take and hold that city away from his core without a much larger army. Just an unfortunate decision that backfired and wasted away the lead that had been built up over the first 50 turns of the game.

[Mjmd]

Thoughts on buying cities? There has already been 1 city gifted (for a good reason), I don't see any reason why not as long as its clear your not just doing it to throw the game. Fine line.

[Hitru]

I think it should be ok as it has already been done in this game during war. Need to trust players not to abuse it. But in future games I would just strictly ban city gifting/trading.

[Charriu]

Honestly I would love to see a return of city trading'.

As long as lurkers are informed about a concrete deal, they can judge about it. And in case someone does a city trade that is an unfair move like we have seen in the past we could just reload before the deal.

[Cyneheard]

I think it should be ok as it has already been done in this game during war. Need to trust players not to abuse it. But in future games I would just strictly ban city gifting/trading.

Once it's been allowed for war, I think a peaceful deal is also reasonable; this is extortion but that's part of the game.

1000% agree that a player dumping their cities out of spite is a recipe for disaster.

[Hitru]

Yeah, it's a fine line when it is scceptable and when it is not. So in future it would be easiest to just ban it. But here it was allowed once so should be fine now too

[sunrise089]

I don't think I'd favor a ban. I think these extortion 'gifts' have really added a fun avenue to the game and I think it'd be a shame for aggressors to not have that option. Maybe rule-exploiters would too easily take advantage, but it seems like it could be easy enough to police whether cities are being gifted to a third party out of spite or are being offered to secure peace under threat...