Superdeath wants to be the very best Piñata.

[GeneralKilCavalry]

If we did an axe rush *cough* *cough* then settling on the copper would not have been a bad option... the city can be moved 1SE, which then allows a city between the banana and the FP tile.

[Charriu]

No, GKC you were not meant to use the magic word so early.

[superdeath]

[Fintourist]

Yeah settling on copper is probably a bit too wasteful here so let's try to settle later cities so that they can take food resources from the capital. On the other hand the location of the copper is great, we were probably already going for the wet rice and now there will be a 6-foodhammer tile to improve! 

SW and SE of the copper are both options here. SW allows cottaging the flood plains earlier and gets a more convenient forest. SE gets a plain riverside hill to mine or cottage, which will be nice eventually at size 4. SW is probably a tiny bit stronger in isolation, but scouting info will still play into the decision.

Haven't done extensive simming, but I suggest that the worker moves to the forest NE-E of the capital after improving the wheat. That should keep everything nicely open for further worker shuffling.

Minor questions: Do NobleGas and/or Serdoa have Fishing? Are we perhaps getting a beaker from known-tech bonus (what's the GNP with Fishing vs other techs selected?)? How many beakers do you have now in Fishing (XX/74)? I'm asking because with enough KTB we could make some adjustment to get Fishing a turn earlier, which would help the opening a bit (fish connected a turn sooner).

[Charriu]

Minor questions: Do NobleGas and/or Serdoa have Fishing? Are we perhaps getting a beaker from known-tech bonus (what's the GNP with Fishing vs other techs selected?)? How many beakers do you have now in Fishing (XX/74)? I'm asking because with enough KTB we could make some adjustment to get Fishing a turn earlier, which would help the opening a bit (fish connected a turn sooner).

Have a look at the F6 screen. The number bottom right of Fishing will tell you how many players you have met have Fishing already.

[superdeath]

Yeah settling on copper is probably a bit too wasteful here so let's try to settle later cities so that they can take food resources from the capital. On the other hand the location of the copper is great, we were probably already going for the wet rice and now there will be a 6-foodhammer tile to improve! 

SW and SE of the copper are both options here. SW allows cottaging the flood plains earlier and gets a more convenient forest. SE gets a plain riverside hill to mine or cottage, which will be nice eventually at size 4. SW is probably a tiny bit stronger in isolation, but scouting info will still play into the decision.

Haven't done extensive simming, but I suggest that the worker moves to the forest NE-E of the capital after improving the wheat. That should keep everything nicely open for further worker shuffling.

Minor questions: Do NobleGas and/or Serdoa have Fishing? Are we perhaps getting a beaker from known-tech bonus (what's the GNP with Fishing vs other techs selected?)? How many beakers do you have now in Fishing (XX/74)? I'm asking because with enough KTB we could make some adjustment to get Fishing a turn earlier, which would help the opening a bit (fish connected a turn sooner).

Minor questions: Do NobleGas and/or Serdoa have Fishing? Are we perhaps getting a beaker from known-tech bonus (what's the GNP with Fishing vs other techs selected?)? How many beakers do you have now in Fishing (XX/74)? I'm asking because with enough KTB we could make some adjustment to get Fishing a turn earlier, which would help the opening a bit (fish connected a turn sooner).

Have a look at the F6 screen. The number bottom right of Fishing will tell you how many players you have met have Fishing already.

ill make sure to check when the save gets around to me.

[superdeath]

moved a couple city locations around.. and that scout will be going i THINK NW first, and then continue to make a wide circle around to the west side of the capital.

[superdeath]

[superdeath]

Moved the worker to the mentioned forest. workboat>Worker in the city queue

[superdeath]

Workboat finished EOT, fishing will be in 3. So workboat will be sitting for a couple turns, might run it up the coast just enough to get some vision before fishing comes in.

Open to ideas on where cities should go/what order, currently thinking the southern city as city 2, and the eastern wheat/silver city as city 3.