WW 44: Battlestar Galactica

[Gazglum]

I'm not wedded to you being a team, and I'm trying to consider your POV if you were town. If I was in your position, I would be suspicious of Lewwyn being scum buddying me with those posts, especially if you now think I am misguided town.

[Jabbz]

I had to have something to put in there, making a ridiculous excuse for why you were scummy showed, I thought, that I wasn't serious about it. My first day, especially not early first day, posts are never overly serious.

So we weren't supposed to take your reasons seriously? Did you think that should be obvious at the time, or only in hindsight?

Or course, wanting to keep a fun tone in the thread is obviously great, and I apologize for not getting your attempts at humour.

I apologize for not getting your attempts at humour.

Don't really think you're at fault here.

I agree with Lewwyn, not your fault. I mentioned before, my jokes usually fall flat. To me half the amusement comes from how badly the fail. Self deprecating humor is after all, an art. But yes, I was attempting to make a reason so ridiculous no one would think it was legitimate. I did think it would be obvious at the time, and I feel maybe one or two people caught that, but I think the majority read it the way you did.

[AdrienIer]

I'm not wedded to you being a team, and I'm trying to consider your POV if you were town. If I was in your position, I would be suspicious of Lewwyn being scum buddying me with those posts, especially if you now think I am misguided town.

I have a different approach. There are two people we want to lynch, and even if Lewwyn is one of them it's clearly not in my interest to attack him. And as I said, while I can't be 100% objective about his most recent posts his earlier posts are good as well (posts 50 and 54 for example which were asking the right questions without making unnecessarily strong accusations)

[Gazglum]

#50 and #54 are just rebuttals to the town mindmeld idea. They are good posts, but I consider them a null tell, Lewwyn can see through fuzzy logic as either scum or town. But I accept your self-preservation position.

[Jabbz]

So, I'm not really sure. Everyone is feeling pretty null for me right now. Maybe slight town lean on novice for lighthearted town. Maybe scum lean on Jabbz for a confusing and forced opening. I agree that he's being more reasonable now, but I don't like pre-planned joke stuff and lean scum on that type of gambit. 

For the moment, Jabbz

Picked this up isolating Lewwyn's posts. This seems contradictory to me. He gives a slight town lean to novice for keeping things lighthearted, but gives me a scum lean for trying to do the same thing. I would think that the lack of success in being funny should, by your standards, be offset by the fact that I was trying to be lighthearted..

[Jabbz]

So last quarter of the first day. I don't have anything in the way of solid town leans at this point, but then again I also lack solid scum leans. On the slightly townish side however, I have:

Gazglum.He seems to be engaged in active wolf hunting, exploring multiple ideas and not tunneling. His arguments all seem to come across as being natural instead of forced. This is tempered with the knowledge that I'm not sure I would recognize wolf Gaz if he put a knife in my chest. He always comes across towny to me.


Novice. His response to my vote against him felt natural, and I particularly liked his defense of Winston's potential intentions.

Also the first part is unfair to Winston (what has he got to do with it?) but obviously you still have bad feelings about that game so we don't have to talk about it.

No one would have noticed or commented on him not defending Winston under these circumstances. Seeking to reduce strife among the thread is not exactly a wolf tactic.


On my more scummy side I have Dp101. Taken individually his posts don't seem too bad, just a bit bull in a china shopish if you will. Taken collectively however, it seems like he is putting a bunch of threads out there and seeing if anyone trips on them. Once they are noticed however, he's pulling them back, and that seems bad to me.

I also have Lewwyn leaning slightly scum, though less so than Dp. He jumps on my "pre-planned joke stuff/gambit" as a reason to paint me scummy enough to vote for, while ignoring other people also behaving in a light hearted manner. A lot of other people also jumped on me for my first posts initially, which was fine, but then when an explanation was provided they were cool with it. Lewwyn still seems to be on the offensive for it, though he does come off of it, but only to call Gaz scum. Given that I view Gaz's engagement this round as productive and towny, that combination makes me read him rather badly.

I'd also like to point out, that by looking at post counts we have a lurker. I'd like Qg to explain why he only has half as many posts as our next lowest poster. He might be trying to slink his way to a scum win....

Because my bad jokes are being taken seriously this round, please note the comment about Qg is indeed a joke.

Also that is not meant to imply in any way that Qg is scum, as I get that he's the moderator.

Also, please don't use this as a reason to vote against me.

All told, I think keeping my vote on Dp101 is a pretty safe bet for the moment. Going to lunch with the wife shortly, but I'll be back in a few hours.

[Jabbz]

Oh, before I forget, I had been collecting this stuff before I go, since we don't have the thread tool. Enjoy.

AdrienIer : Dp101 – Jabbz
Dp101 : Gazglum
Gazglum : Adrienier – Winston – Dp101
Jabbz : Dp101 – Novice
Lewwyn : Gazglum – Jabbz – Gazglum
Novice : Adrienier
Winston Hughes : Lewwyn – Jabbz
Accurate to post 106. Votes to left are most recent.

[Dp101]

You are missing my adrienIer vote.

[AdrienIer]

Novice can you participate more ? I just reread you and while I like your beginning (and I'm fine about you voting for me for no reason early on) you still haven't given a single reason for staying there (aside from not liking my first response to Gaz, but that isn't recent). Your shorts questions (posts 70 and 81) without any followup make me uneasy.

Actually I don't necessarily want you to participate more, but to follow up your questions and provide more reasoning. I'm going to sleep soon and won't be able to discuss or make my case before 40mn to deadline so having people post now rather than in the next few hours is pretty much a matter of life and death

[Gazglum]

I would particularly like to hear Novices thoughts on Lewwyn, if you have time tonight.