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SD killed my scouting chariot on the turn he declared war, since then - yes
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Question, do units heal at all in enemy territory without a medic unit?
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Yes, but it's only 5 hp per turn.
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Thanks!
The reason I asked is that SD moved keshiks on the copper
My worry was that he could spread his units next turn, cutting off the roads, blocking off the supply routes between Ishgard and Kugane, while also devaluing my catapult. However, with his keshiks promoted to shock, and no spears in the area, I couldn't kill the stack. I also had to build spears this turn, as him pillaging the copper and making spear production impossible is a near certainty. So I was wondering if hitting the keshiks with the catapult this turn, while they're all stacked up, was a good play - and Tarkeel's answer confirmed that it was (at least in my mind)
Catapult had 22% chance of survival and didn't make it
I'm sacrificing the worker doing the chopping, I had to have this chop come in to complete the ishgardian spear this turn (same reason Kugane is working unimproved plains this turn, I need that spear completed). Depending on which units SD sends to capture the worker, there's a possibility of trading it for at least one keshik, which wouldn't be bad
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Clicked through people I have trade routes with to see if I could beg copper of anyone, but no one has a spare. In fact, Commodore has no metals at all?? At least none are listed - I've been wondering about his opening, which looked unorthodox, and also about how he's surviving in this world with such a low power rating. Maybe his land is difficult to access, so he's not worried? or he just didn't see the need to connect his copper city to the capital? World in which he doesn't have metals connected in an MP game by T80 is confusing to me
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As I suspected, SD spread out the keshiks - good thing I thought of hitting them with the catapult last turn, even if I didn't have a follow-up
But I did have a follow-up this turn, with two spears completing. With no more copper, risking spears was dangerous, but the numbers showed I had 80+% chance of killing 4 keshiks, and I didn't think I would get a better opportunity. Plus, Kugane with no cultural defences was better protected by killing units threatening it than hoping SD's gets unlucky trying to attack it
So first, I took this fight
Lost it, but brought the keshik low enough to be cleaned up by the sentry chariot
Then the other 2 chariots tried to take down the keshik W of Ishgard (apparently forgot to screenshot this move), and both lost (odds were over 80% to take it down, and 72% after the first chariot died). I did have another chariot in Ishgard in reserve to complete the kill
The spear out of Ishgard took down another one
For the last move, I agonised over it. I had two expendable axes in Ishgard who could attempt to kill the keshik on the copper. Calculator was once again giving me the odds around 80%, but if it failed, I was out of options, and SD was likely to kill the surviving axe even if I succeeded. On the other hand, it was the only keshik with no shock promotion, and only at 5.0/6 health, not 5.4 like the rest. This was likely the best opportunity to kill it with axes, before SD had a chance to stack them up
In the end, I decided there were enough pros to go for it (again, forgot to screenshot - sorry!)
And I did get lucky on this combat - not only did the first axe win the 30%, it only took one hit, so highly likely to deal a fair amount of damage to the keshik who will kill it
The aftermath
3 keshiks on range of Ishgard (the second unit under the keshik 2NE of Ishgard is Krill's scout). Possibly 4, depending where the one who razed Ala Mhigo is. Nothing in range of Kugane. And one more on the corn in the capital
There's a possibility I will find a peace offer next turn. If not, repairing the infrastructure (especially the copper) while still at war will be a struggle. On ther other hand, even if I do, I would like to get one more combat out of this war to get a great general. We'll see
Started research on IW - firstly with the hope of finding another source of metal, secondly to get access to war elephants - the ultimate unit to stop SD
In foreign news, you can see on the last screenshot that Bing settled the banana spot I was eyeing. Think I know what I'm doing with my military once the SD war is over
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(May 30th, 2023, 10:30)yuris125 Wrote: Then the other 2 chariots tried to take down the keshik W of Ishgard (apparently forgot to screenshot this move), and both lost (odds were over 80% to take it down, and 72% after the first chariot died). I did have another chariot in Ishgard in reserve to complete the kill
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For the last move, I agonised over it. I had two expendable axes in Ishgard who could attempt to kill the keshik on the copper. Calculator was once again giving me the odds around 80%, but if it failed, I was out of options, and SD was likely to kill the surviving axe even if I succeeded. On the other hand, it was the only keshik with no shock promotion, and only at 5.0/6 health, not 5.4 like the rest. This was likely the best opportunity to kill it with axes, before SD had a chance to stack them up
Sorry to hear that, taking 80% odds is usually the winning move, but SD does have the best combat luck in the game.
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It's fine, I lost an 80%, I won a 30%, it all evens out
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So if SD does not offer peace, I still have two spears left, one in Old Sharlayan, and a wounded one in Ishgard. I will need to bring the one from the capital over, there's no way I can start rebuilding while at war without spears to protect the workers, and reconnecting the copper has to be high priority. Whereas the capital should be ok defending with archers, with the city on a hill and 40% cultural defence
Old Sharlayan is building a worker, and there will be a chop coming into it. Kugane will also switch to a worker next turn, I'm just putting a turn into archer this turn to have an emergency whip available
Ishgard is whipped into the ground; I dry whipped an archer this turn and can 1-turn another archer next turn, so that other units can clean up remaining keshiks if there's an opportunity. Protective archers can be ok on offence as well, 3 archers can take down a keshik, 2 archers for a keshik is an even trade, and without metals archers are the most expendable units I have
I'm actually not sure if I'm taking peace if SD offers it. On one hand, the sooner I start the rebuild, the better, and of course reconnecting the copper is high priority, as is rebuilding the road between the capital and the other cities and getting rid of some unhappines. On the other hand, if SD has a settler to claim the Ala Mhigo spot, giving him 10 turns to establish that city is undesirable. I do still have two pre-chopped forests in Ishgard and can get a new settler out fairly quickly, but very unsure how well I can race for that spot - and with Bing settling the banana city, I don't really have any good peaceful expansion options left
Maybe IW is a mistake, maybe I should go for HBR first - I need both for war elephants anyway, and with my horses in a safer spot than copper, and SD promoting his keshiks to shock, getting my own horse archers may be a better path to improving my position
June 1st, 2023, 07:47
(This post was last modified: June 1st, 2023, 07:49 by yuris125.)
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No peace offer. SD killed the axe, as expected, and did some more pillaging
For me this was a recovery turn as I had to heal my units. Did start moving the spear from the capital towards Ishgard, so that I can start rebuilding tile improvements. Capital is not really threatened any more, archers can handle its defence (C1 keshik vs a protective archer on a hill behind 40% cultural defence gets about 20% odds)
All in all, at this point I'm quite confident I won't lose any cities. Have severe doubts about recovering and getting back into the game though. Still don't have a clear path for that tbh
By the way, this was lost among event log entries from my war, and I only just noticed that Krill declared war on Bing 3 turns ago; Bing already had a city razed (he was on 6 cities at one point, down to 5 now), and is losing it judging by the power graph
Wish I could jump in on this war, taking some land from Bing is one of the potential recovery paths for me. But, well, I can't
Also, disappointed to see my own power graph dip - thought I traded better than the graph suggests
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