[SPOILERS] ALWAYS PEACE? What will Lewwyn do?

[zakalwe]

Are you planning to put Oxford University and Wall Street in the same city?

[Lewwyn]

Are you planning to put Oxford University and Wall Street in the same city?

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. All of it in Elephants along with the shrine and the academy. Currently, Elephants is 1 bpt behind Noah. With a courthouse it will be ahead. They're both at size 9 atm.

And again to be clear, if I get the opportunity to switch into Burea during a GA and I don't have Liberalism for Free Speech yet I'll switch into that. But I think its likely that I won't get a GA until I'm at Lib or I've already researched it.

[mackoti]

Having both, Oxford and Walstreet in same city is 99% a bad ideea.

WHy emancipation late?What late means?

[Lewwyn]

Having both, Oxford and Walstreet in same city is 99% a bad ideea.

Dunno, really its something I have to think about. I don't have the shrine yet, but it will be in Elephants and thus I want to put Wall Street there. If I then turn to put Oxford in my highest commerce city that's going to be Elephants as well (and that's without the shrine.) If I believed I was going to run Burea for any length of time I'd put Oxford and the Academy over in Noah, the capital. But I don't believe that the case so I'd like to simply put them in the highest commerce producing city which will be Elephants once its cottages have matured and it has a courthouse.

So maybe the qualified answer to Zak's question is, I will put Wall Street in Elephants and I will put the Academy and Oxford into the city with the highest commerce potential (which is currently Elephants). Like I said though still time for things to change, and I haven't measured out which city will be the best in the end for producing commerce.

Usually I would put Oxford together with NE in the capital with GL if I had it, or with IW for Burea. But like I said this game situation is a bit different both in terms of how sprawling the empire will be, lack of wonders, different tech paths and different Civics. I'm really trying to avoid any anarchy at all.

But yeah, I know putting them both in the same city is usually a weedy move, I've just been thinking maybe its best this way (and I haven't done more calculations than eyeballing it) in this situation.

WHy emancipation late?What late means?

Late, or later, as in I'm not sure when I want to switch to it. Again I'm not sure because I don't know how many cities I'll have at that point nor what when I want to go that route given the the power of the whip here.

Technically I'm not even sure what ASAP means... I think I wrote that to indicate that I probably would not switch to any other civic before that one, but then I just rubbed stamped State Property with that tag too. I was mostly just playing around with the picture.

[Lewwyn]

One other note, I didn't touch on the Specialists in this scenario. I wasn't planning on running too many specialists in my Oxford/WS cities since I am basically running a huge cottage everything economy. I didn't really want to take too many specialists out of these cities since the map lends itself to a huge cottage economy.

I was planning on putting NE in Beavers with the double corn to support all my specialists. If I wanted to use the Oxford/WS specialist slots with NE then that would have immediately nixed putting them in the same city. But given that my plan was NE up in Beavers (the only city I have that has two 6 food resources) I didn't want Oxford up that way and that sort of opened the door for putting Oxford and WS in the same city.

[novice]

You could always build a palace in Elephants, too.

[Lewwyn]

You could always build a palace in Elephants, too.

The thought had crossed my mind.

[mackoti]

Well , man after i loked again to your cities zebras is a far beter location for Oxford University.Dont do the math after what the city its doing now see the potential on long run, because this is going to space.

And if i were i would build no more cotages in elefants so i can hire some merchants there after wall street.

[Lewwyn]

Well , man after i loked again to your cities zebras is a far beter location for Oxford University.Dont do the math after what the city its doing now see the potential on long run, because this is going to space.

And if i were i would build no more cotages in elefants so i can hire some merchants there after wall street.

I'll keep it in mind. I'm still 30 some turns away from my GS popping and I know I'm going to change my mind by the time that comes, like always. For me future plans are never set in stone. There is only the present when I'm playing the save.

[Lewwyn]

Okay here's an update on the last two turns.

T107 Demos:



Not too much is happening right here, though it is interesting that 221 is my GNP at 0% tech.

Also during this turn Cyneheard popped a GPriest for his Shrine. He then built said shrine the next turn:



Here we see Cyneheard's Shrine. Plus I teched CoL this turn at 60% in one turn because I saw I could and said why not. This way I ensure Scooter has to go elsewhere for a religion. Confucianism popped in Flamingos which is where I was going to send my next Hindu Missionary. Hopefully it doesn't fail as a result.

Also My GP will pop in 3 turns.

Additionally in this picture you can see I have begun moving my setler towards the Magenta site. Looking at it now I'm considering Moving the site 1 W and stealing even more from Cyneheard in the form of 2 FPs and an Oasis in the second ring. It still doesn't allow Cyneheard room to get in and is even more troublesome. Thoughts? Too Aggressive?

Speaking of cities, I think Cyneheard settled 2 more cities this turn and pulled even with me in city count. Unfortnately for him I have 2 settlers moving and 1 settler that will be chopped in 2 turns. Given his new expansion I'm also considering whipping out another 3 settlers at Lions, Zebras and Wolves(After the GP pops). Thus we're looking at 6 settlers in the next 4-5 turns. Though maybe I'll push one out of Geese and Horsies as well.

BTW that Hinduism spread to Horsies was a free spread.

Demos for T108:



Doing okay here, but the most interesting thing here is that Cyneheard has dropped ~20 hammer points (91 to 73) and I think boosted food by ~30 (261 to 292). Most likely he has switched off mines onto food and cottages. I wonder if that signals that he has finished a bunch of Settlers or workers that he was building with the mines in order to get the EXP/IMP discounts. I guess we'll see.

I'm also thinking I will settle Nakor's beavers in the same spot that I settled mine so that I take both his corns and the furs.