[spoiler!] Ruffing Bull of Spain

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Did I say pictures or picture ... units on right are adhocs (I will leave the reader to work out which is the before count and which is the after count). The screen shot is also inaccurate as I killed a stray warrior before I finished my turn (but after the above screenshot). The soldier count is accurate - that included the dead warrior.



Now here is a little mystery for you ... why do I have spy sight into Apollo and not Golden Streak. Each city is about 220-250 EPs. This was before I spent my EPs bringing down the walls (which was replaced at end of turn by more EP spending against Adhoc.

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Now here is a little mystery for you ... why do I have spy sight into Apollo and not Golden Streak. Each city is about 220-250 EPs.

I want to say there's a factor in espionage for distance from the city in question to your capital. Is Golden Streak further from your cap?

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I want to say there's a factor in espionage for distance from the city in question to your capital. Is Golden Streak further from your cap?

Apollo is further ... but you aren't reading the picture correctly ... it ways 'Golden Streak', City Visibility = 223, I have 266 EPs at the end of the previous turn. I think it should be visible.

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quick update ...

• dog threw up 4 times
  
• trip to vet 30 miles away
  
• home at 12:50 (yuk)
  
• took another city from Adhoc
  
• city captured for lost of 1 cat
  
• bombed defenses down from 60% to 22ish% - Conquistadors have odds on pikes (yum)
  
• Adhoc soldier count down from 336k to 255k
  
• have city visibility on all players
  
• can see why NSA is stalled (tons of Krill HAs)
  
• example of poor adhoc road network and example of me treating Adhoc like an AI
  
  
  
• BUT ... the most important thing ... tech parity with NSA!
  

Will follow up with thoughts on Liberalism and I have some comments on NSA's war (will probably share them with NSA)

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• can see why NSA is stalled (tons of Krill HAs)
  

That is a few HAs and Cats. There is a bunch of Longbows that I am not showing in the city too. I guess NSA saw that stack and rethought their invasion plans. I wonder if having Krill play these turns instead of Peg is having an impact on this game?

• example of poor adhoc road network and example of me treating Adhoc like an AI
  

Here is a nice before and after image from the ends of T162 and T163. The red dot you see on T162 turned out to hold a pike, I sent in a Conq to kill it and covered the heavily damaged Conq with another Conq and a Drill III musket. He can attack this mini group, but he will need to road and move units a fair bit ... probably not worth it (this is me treating Adhoc like and AI - that and my simple attack style so far ... roll up to city, bomb a little, kill units).

Note Adhoc's workers from T162 are all building roads ... roads that should have been there before.

• BUT ... the most important thing ... tech parity with NSA!
  

This pic is doing double duty ... Adhoc (EP visible) soldier count before and after as well as illustrating tech parity.

Will follow up with thoughts on Liberalism and I have some comments on NSA's war (will probably share them with NSA)

Chat sent to NSA end of last turn (remember, read bottom to top). It contains my thoughts on Lib and NSA attack suggestions.

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I mentioned up stream that I am playing this leader / civ game in a pbem hosted at CFC. Here is an example when the host (to my espionage parasite) complains about their treatment ...

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread...146&page=2 (start at post #37)

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nothing much happened this turn ...

• NSA donated Tri to me
  
• moved forward deeper into Adhoc land
  
• turned EP spending off for a few turns (why?)
  
• theaters being built to unlock globe
  

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Oh no ... I am running out of EPs against NSA. I just stole Rifling with a -40% spy (cost of not waiting, 140EPs, benefit of stealing now - zero ). I now only have 59 EPs left ... not even enough to see their tech.

Why didn't I gain anything? I was expecting one of my Conq to auto-upgrade in the same way that NSA's unit did ... but, apparently, I can build Conq and Cav at the same time



But before I get into the fun stuff, here is some other stuff from the turn ...

Warning to Lord Blackhammer (TT) - I did move units around in case he does push forward and offload something


Power Graph


Now, the emerging situation in Adhoc land (notice he has lots of 2xWorkers under stacks to road before they move) ...



You can see the units arranged against me and my units before I move(!). The question for this turn is, where should I move ... maybe even ... do I have enough units to advance? Since I am treating Adhoc like an AI (sorry Adhoc), I may as well continue until he shows me that he isn't an AI.

So, options are:

• 1NE and bombing, attacking capital over the river?
  
• 1SE and moving to his (presumably) Heroic Epic city?
  
• 1E and forking both cities?
  

I moved 1E. He can hit me with 5 cats and then some pikes and maces (he has been throwing his cats against me but then not following up). My prediction is that he will try and wipe my units off the map - it will hurt him as I have some pretty good defensive units in there ... but, looking at it now, I don't have enough units to push this attack at the moment. I'll have to do something about that.

You will notice that there are some tiles that are in the fog (even given my city visibility) so I have moved a spy into play ... he is heading towards that tile with the single axe on it

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Finally - a map oddity for our mirror starts ... Peg / Krill's city on the top, Adhocs in the middle and mine on the bottom. NSA also put a city on that tile while TT put it 1 North.



You can see that both Adhoc and I popped gold from a mine ... but on different tiles.

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Why didn't I gain anything? I was expecting one of my Conq to auto-upgrade in the same way that NSA's unit did ... but, apparently, I can build Conq and Cav at the same time

Yeah - this actually worked to our (well, sunrise's) advantage in PB1. Reason (I guess) is that Conqs have a benefit that Cavs don't have (i.e. they receive defensive bonuses), so it would stink to have that unavailable for the short window that you don't have Rifling.

Same reason that you can still build Quechuas till macemen, even though regular warriors expires with Axe / Spear.