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[SPOILERS] swans will bite u

idk, what do you think we should do if that happens?

i don't really think the builder can go anywhere else tbh... and i am scared if we delay the boats at all thrawn will beat us to some of our cs and then burn them down frown i guess worst-case we can just kind of....keep the builder around as a scout until we have time for more worker techs

even the farm option is a little sketch, half the point of the boats-only approach is that IF we get owned by barbs for our greed then there's nothing for them to pillage
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another thing i could do if we have a 3 food tile is just go....SETTLER first. so work the rice/marsh for 5t to grow while putting 3 hpt into the builder, then swap to settler the second we hit size 2. then we can wait to finish the builder until there's something for it to do lol
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My 2 cents. Settler first if you got less then 2 good improvable tiles.


Also we will see how the CS are situated.

If we have normal map they can be conquered, if the past is something to judge by, CS will be set in desert islands without water and one sea access and cliffs, because conquest is evil.:D
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Also, in my testgames barbarians were a nightmare. Did they buff those?
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thrawn did specifically request from kaiser that they be placed pbem20-style, and presumably picked norway on that assumption. so it will hurt us if the CS can't be conquered, but probably will hurt norway more :D japan can do whatever, what can norway do besides the longship carpet?

re barbs hmmm, i don't know. i had a lot of trouble w barb ships in tests, which got better w a dedicated early ships approach. land barbs have not been toooo bad but japan is the best anti-barb civ in the game thanks to divine wind. my experience is therefore probably not suuuper represntative :/

wanna do some test games w our actual civs sometime? :D
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I can play in 2 hours.
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i might have a work obligation but it looks like half my team is out of office so it might not happen, i'll let you know
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"When at war with a common enemy, Sumerian and allied units share pillage rewards and combat experience if within 5 tiles of each other. Earn Alliance Points per-turn if both civilizations are at war with the same foe. When fighting a common enemy, Gilgamesh and his allies share a +5 Combat Strength bonus."

oh FUCK
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fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck FUCK fuck fuck fuuuuuuck
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Oh of course.

I remember people briefly considered Sumeria for PBEM7, but that was before the shared strength bonus was thrown in. I'll bet what Thrawn was testing was if the permanent alliance in a team game is sufficient to trigger it, and since he did take them, I'll bet it is.

Novel but inspired, what else is new. I'm miffed I didn't think of that myself.

I wonder if they are considering a combined longship/war cart rush? Would be very risky, but against an unprepared team (see: not us, possibly no one in this game) it might actually work.
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