[Spoilers] Luff_Hi of Japan

[Ruff_Hi]

• Krill: Hi mate,
  How goes the war?
  
• Ruff: just having parties in Kyoto
  
• Krill: Beaten off the attacl?
  Congrats, if so
  
• Ruff: attack gave up
  
• Krill: same thing, congratulations on surviving your second rush in as many games
  
• Ruff: thx
  

And here are Yaz's current forces ... you should check Yaz or Darrell's thread to work out why he is running some units home.

[Ruff_Hi]

Did I mention that I am chasing the circumnavigation bonus. I am (assuming there is some map overlap) from 2 to 4 turns away.



Red boat (East) can see to the red dots while the Green boat (West) can get to the green dots. If land proceeds further East and West, then they met in 2 turns. If one of the islands is a dead end, then it will be 4 turns.

[Ruff_Hi]

I've gone back and updated that post where I mentioned I had some screenshots to fill in later ... http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showpost....tcount=123

Here is a screenshot from my 2nd city. You can see that I have camped the ivory, just waiting on construction to release the War Elephants. You can also see my 3rd city marked, netting iron and horses. Do you see that SL galley? I am 110% certain that it contains a settler and that this settler will land next turn and found a city the turn after ... at which point SL will gift me the city and I can reconnect iron. I have 3 workers in the area ready to mine (the tile is already roaded).

The Tri is whippable next turn but it will also get a chop to complete a work boat the turn after. After that, it will built some military to start to take the fight to Yaz.

[T-hawk]

Did I mention that I am chasing the circumnavigation bonus.

I don't think you did, actually. Didn't realize you had managed to get boats out early along with all your fighting!

[Ruff_Hi]

I don't think you did, actually. Didn't realize you had managed to get boats out early along with all your fighting!

yeah - sneaked a WB thru Yaz' capital to the West before he NAPstabbed me. I would have got it a few turns ago but I decided to sent a WB East and recall the galley - easier to defend with galley than WB.

[Ruff_Hi]

In Yaz news, Darrell sent me this pic ...



... then reported that he had killed Pasargadae for (effectively) the loss of all of his units. This robs Yaz of a city and horses but he still has copper. To me, that wasn't the brightest of moves. This stack wasn't designed to kill cities (the coming war elephants and cats do that). This stack was designed to cripple Yas's ability to make defensive units (spears, axes). I think that Yaz will be up and running with both horses and copper again in 3 turns.

I would have sent my 0XP chariot North and pillaged the horses (and lost the unit). Then moved all of my units onto the copper and pillaged the mine and road. At that point, Yaz has no strategic resources, he can reconnect the horses if he gets a worker out of that city and covers it but he will have to work very very hard to get his copper back ... probably sacrificing his axes to do it.

We need to finish the war quickly or it is effectively game over for us. I think this move here probably added 5 to 10 turns to the war duration.

[Ruff_Hi]

I know it has been ages ... but study and other stuff keep getting in the way of a good long report. Well, exam was last Wednesday and I have some time to do justice to this game.



I have secured ivory, horses and iron on the island to my North. I have planted the city that Yaz and I originally fought over (see above) and I am using that as my staging area as well as securing those Bananas for Krill

• Krill: What would you trade for machinery?
  Not looking for a lot - just, a fair offer from someone in your position
  
• Ruff: I don't have much
  all I do have is ... a) clams b) gold
  how long will it take you to tech it and what are your per turn expenses?
  
• Krill: Are you ever likely to get one of hte following: wheat, rice, crabs, cow, sheep
  less than 5 turns, and exorbitant
  started a while ago
  I'm happy with the promise of a future health resource exchangetbh with you
  Not trying to wring you for everything you have got
  
• Ruff: cow - yes
  let me look at my map - rice, banana
  
• Krill: So, What about this: machinery for promise of 30 turns of banana? Do you have any idea of when you could hook that up? I know the answer is kinda dependent on Yaz dying
  
• Ruff: do you have stone?
  
• Krill: No, I don;t actually. no stone or marble
  
• Ruff: my next city is refounding my copper city
  the one oafter that is to pick up banana
  how about I swap them and prioritize my banana
  
• Krill: It's up to you
  
• Ruff: I have a settler in production but he keeps getting pushed down the queue
  
• Krill: I don;t mind waiting
  
• Ruff: I will take that deal ... Machinery for 30t of Banana when I get it
  I will make my banana city either my next or one after city depending on how war with Yaz goes
  
• Krill: cool
  

Darrell and I have also extended our alliance to include a mutual defensive pact

• Darrell: I would like to strengthen our treaty
  first, I assume it is still game long
  
• Ruff: right - me too
  
• Darrell: mutual defensive pact
  
• Ruff: automatic or delayed?
  
• Darrell: delayed, but best effort to assist
  
• Ruff: what if I am otherwise engaged (ie in another war)
  
• Darrell: I honestly don't think you'll need it, so it benefits me more in the event of a Krill backstab
  
• Ruff: and only if declared on?
  
• Darrell: yes, only if declared on, and only if you don't have enough on your hands
  
• Ruff: fine
  
• Darrell: hear me out, you accepted too soon
  
• Ruff: but we should also discuss war plans with each other too
  ok ...
  
• Darrell: If it comes to it and you help me defeat Krilol, that 5 city island with the triple gold resource NW of Yaz that I ceded to Krill is yours
  He has I think 5 cities on my island, so that's pretty good
  And he has two cities on a small island to his west
  I think its highly unlikely this scenario happens, because I dont think Krill will attack me.
  But it makes me sleep a lot better
  
• Ruff: finished?
  
• Darrell: totally finished
  
• Ruff: ok - didn't change a thing
  fine
  

except he does seem to be talking to way too many people, having a foot in too many camps, trying to swing both ways, (insert suitable saying here) ...

• Ruff: btw - we did agree on a mutual Def Pact didn't we?
  
• Darrell: mmm, no
  I dont know that I can
  since I agreed not to declare on krill
  
• Ruff: I have chat from you with that offer
  and me accepting
  • Darrell: mutual defensive pact
    
  • Ruff: automatic or delayed?
    
  • Darrell: delayed, but best effort to assist
    
  • Ruff: what if I am otherwise engaged (ie in another war)
    
  • Darrell: I honestly don't think you'll need it, so it benefits me more in the event of a Krill backstab
    
  • Ruff: and only if declared on?
    
  • Darrell: yes, only if declared on, and only if you don't have enough on your hands
    
  • Ruff: fine
    
• Darrell: hmm
  that puts me in an almost impossible situation
  because I've told krill I wont attack him
  and Ive told you that I will come to your aid
  
• Ruff: maybe you better leak to Krill that you have a Def PAct with me
  
• Darrell: yeah
  
• Ruff: so that you aren't put in that situation
  
• Darrell: why do I do these things to myself?
  I have your permission to let him know?
  
• Ruff: about our Def PAct - sure
  
• Darrell: ok
  

However, this way with Yaz is hurting as I am way behind in tech



After the way, I am going to see how fast I can rex ... I certainly have the units to garrison a few additional cities.

I also suggest you drop in on Yaz's or Darrell's thread - apparently there was some major conflict last turn.

[Ruff_Hi]

chat with yaz ...

• Yaz: Wanna sell me a couple war elephants by any chance?
  
• Ruff: as you can see, I do have some
  do you want to buy a few?
  
• Yaz: Yeah sure. I'll over 10 coins a piece?
  
• Ruff: they cost slightly more than than
  lets see ... copper city ... how much did that cost me?
  
• Yaz: Less than great lighthouse cost me
  But I'll call that about even :P
  So are you saying 15coins a piece? Maybe some rice added in?
  
• Ruff: I was racing for the GLh too until war
  
  
• Yaz: You mean the war you started?
  
• Ruff: actually - I was thinking of your iron or copper city
  well - I started the land squabble
  you started the annihilation war
  
• Yaz: That's debateable. But he had the lighthouse by the time that started. So you gave up the great lighthouse to 'squable' over land eh?
  
• Ruff: actaully - I think I gave it up when I realized how close we were
  and wanted to get an anti-immortal unit
  
• Yaz:
  Too bad you didn't play nice
  So how many war elephants you offering for my iron city?
  
• Ruff: 1
  oh ... do you still have your iron city?
  
• Yaz: yes
  darrell pulled back, figured he lost enough troops trying to take it I guess
  looks like he's moving over to help you
  
• Ruff: hey - I hear it is your birthday tomorrow
  happy birthday
  
• Yaz: yeah, that means you should gift me a war elephant for my birthday I think :D
  thanks though
  
• Ruff: you are really fixated on these WEs
  the only problem with them is it is near impossible to select a unit that is on the tile behind the WE
  
• Yaz: Well you could just delete them and save yourself the trouble.
  
• Ruff: yes - that is an option
  oh - gtg ... have a 4:15 meeting
  see you in game in about 2-3 hrs
  
• Yaz: cya
  

[Whosit]

Good to hear from you again, Ruff. I've been quiet, but I have been trying to follow. Sounds like you're moving forward a bit? Sure hope so!

[Kyan]

Super updates. Thanks