[NO PLAYERS] Raskol's log

[Raskolnikov]

Btw, Note there are horses north of the that gold tile in the south (check out Mr.Cairo screenie, MC has AH)

edit: horses in Orléans also (second ring, NEern tile)

[Raskolnikov]

You didn't mention it in the report I think, but looking at PBspy I presume superdeath founded Hinduism. I think they're the ones I suggested as main competition for the Oracle, so every turn counts. How many turns does priesthood take?

It's definitely Shaka of Rome who did it  (he switched ibt)
I need to check if I see marble in the screens (and need to link them )

TBW settled his Herpes (lol at the naming theme, not sure of the timing though) claiming cow/silver.

Will play in a couple of hours in case u wanna have a look.

Btw granary is due in 2 turns in DoW with normal production (9hpt), so we may just complete it and put the chop in an axe. The timing will be the same. (we will be just over the half of the food bar, but not by much)

edit: I didn't get around to sim Oracle in capital. Will try tmr. For me the immediate question (to be decided before next turn) is whether we want to make that worker move from DoW to Capital and back, to speed up settling of city #4

[Rusten]

The granary finishes above half in DoW but we still get full storage so it doesn't matter. It will complete at 15/24 and we've got +4 food surplus so the 3 turns to grow means the maximum (12 food) saved/carrying over.

Settler is at 29/100 now at 16 production per turn. I guess we will whip it at 61/100, but I don't think priesthood and marble is ready in time for that. You should probably part-build a granary until priesthood is 1 turn away and then whip the settler. That way you'll reach size 4 (almost) immediately to be able to work the mines. Size 4 capital with 2x mines and 2x clam and the new city taking the pigs. Whipping granary at size 2 is probably best for that new city.

That said, another interesting possibility is putting a turn into a worker to prepare a 2nd whip to finish The Oracle with. I think I prefer that over part-building the granary, even if it means we're slower to reach size 4 again. I haven't done any maths, but considering we'll have 2 turns of pig before the new city can claim it I imagine this works out best. We really need that worker for later too.

To recap: 2 turns into settler --> 1 turn into worker --> whip settler 5 to 3 --> Oracle (work all food tiles to facilitate a 4 to 2 worker whip until new city takes pig) --> whip worker to complete Oracle when it's time.
That would assume we'll have priesthood in 4 which I think is the case, but if we're one turn off then that can be a granary while growing.

edit: to answer your edit I think there's no chance. We need the marble improved and roaded within 4 (or at most 5) turns.
edit 2: going for a run, but feel free to play.

[Raskolnikov]

Seems you covered everything

Just to give you some more stuff to think about, after PH, I was assuming AH, writing, Math (trading it against alpha with Mr.Cairo).

Though I will play tmr waking up, too much deprived of sleep rn.

[Rusten]

I presume we're taking MC with the Oracle, so I'm a little concerned about our happy cap. Monarchy will be very important and it would be excellent if we could couple HR+OR in one go. If you've already made a deal with Cairo for early mathematics then that complicates things, but from an empire perspective I'd want AH --> monotheism (religion) --> monarchy. Possibly mono before AH to secure religion. If you've arranged for multiple luxury trades then we should be good, especially if Cairo has surplus gold (+2 with forge). If we can't trade for luxuries then HR+OR has high priority.

1 turn of worker = 18 hammers in The Evidence, which is about as good as it gets for overflow into Oracle.

[Raskolnikov]

Ah yeah happy cap. I still haven't accepted the fact we missed poly (I was counting on it AND silver in my earlier plans)...

I guess we will have to estimate the turn we can reach math with or without mono/monarchy. I told MC we would be there around t80.

If we can't make it, there is imo the possibility of letting him do math (a bit risky in case he changes alliances) since he wanted it so badly and go alpha ourselves (after mono/monarchy) and then trade for it.

edit: yeah one turn of worker nearly gives the best 2 pop overflow possible!

[Raskolnikov]

We really need a  name for city #3



Note there is a warrior south of it.

Demos:

[Rusten]

Why are you running 0% slider? We need research for priesthood...

edit: I logged in and changed it. If you've made calculations then no harm and you can go 0% next turn instead. In case you're being forgetful it's now at 100%.

In DoW I recommend putting the overflow into an archer instead of an axe, just to get a unit out quickly. Then continue towards an axe, and if necessary 1-pop the spear before it starts decaying hammers. How many turns have been spent on production other than the spear since it was started? We probably don't want to whip away the marble tile, but 4 to 3 sounds good, be that the spear or something else. DoW has so little food that 1-pop whips should be the baseline and only 2-pop whips if we're having severe happiness struggles.

We might need an answer to that barbarian warrior indeed. Barbarians will attack cities the moment there are more than 3 x player count, and with an IMP civ around I'm sure they'll have 4 soon (but I haven't kept track). Capital doesn't need warrior while on size 3, but we'll need a backup unit too I suppose. I guess the archer could be moved in that direction using the road. Another reason to complete that before the axe.

[Raskolnikov]

2 turns of granary since t47 iirc. edit: yeah one turn archer then axe then spear. We should have time to avoid hammer decay.
Slider, I didn't make the math, but I figured with overflow PH would take 3 turns so the bottleneck would be linking the marble. But good job putting it up again since it's less risky (maybe I had it wrong )

[Raskolnikov]

Slider, I didn't make the math, but I figured with overflow PH would take 3 turns so the bottleneck would be linking the marble. But good job putting it up again since it's less risky (maybe I had it wrong )

research is the bottleneck since we wanna start The Oracle asap.