[SPOLERS] yuris125, Pitboss 71. The battle Warrior of Light is unlikely to win

[scooter]

To be more precise, the normal speed formula is:


Great Scientist: 1500b + (3b * pop)
Other GP: 1000b + (2b * pop)


I would guess it would include cities in resistance, but I don’t know for sure.

[yuris125]

Thank you trying to figure out how much of Engineering the great engineer from Ishgard is going to bulb. Looks like I will end up with a great Chile-shaped empire, so Engineering would be a huge help for mobility. Also thinking if it would be worth investing 160h into moving the capital back to Old Sharlayan, having it at the very southern end of the empire is going to cost me in distance maintenance

My stack is outside Nippur, which is defended by 3 units, one of which is a warrior. Should fall next turn (later today if we get another turn tonight)

[yuris125]

Well, the thing I was worried about happened. I am at war with Krill




I was never going to be allowed to get Bing's land easily, was I?

Krill will take Sippar next turn (raze or keep, it's up to him) and cut off most of my army up north

Who knows, maybe this time I will actually die

[yuris125]

Never could wrap my head around unit teleporting rules. If I move the stack as indicated, then send a peace offer to Bing, and he accepts, will the units be teleported to the city or back to where they are now? (lots of ifs, I know)

[yuris125]

Thoth declared war on Pindicator, hmmmm

Bing declared war on Krill, almost looks like he's looking for an exit

The game is slowly but surely rolling towards Krill's victory - it does not look like people have a plan for dealing with him

Krill did keep Sippar

I did not attempt to peace out with Bing and see where my stack teleports. Instead I pillaged the roads between Sippar and Dur-Kurigalzu. I don't see combat workers with Krill's stack, so this way only 2-movers will be able to reach the city, and that's countered by elephants. Gives me time to bring the elephants / catapults from Nippur attack into the city

[yuris125]

Unsurprisingly, Krill did have the workers to rebuild the road. I think what I did what my best chance of keeping at least some of Bing's cities, but it didn't work out

Commodore cancelled the deal where he supplied me with horses, so I had to cancel my horse supply to Thoth

Krill is up to 20 cities (soon to be 21 as he takes Nippur from me, and probably more if he rolls over Bing, now that Bing declared on him). Will I survive long enough to see the concession?

[yuris125]

By the way, to be explicit on this, I'm happy to concede to Krill whenever

[yuris125]

Looks like Bing managed to take a city off Krill. Big applause

He also sent me this




I was actually going to send him white peace at this point, we no longer share a border and I'm happy for him to do his best against Krill. But sure, I'll take it

Thoth asked for horses again. I accepted - I had a couple of horse archers finishing last turn, so needed the horses back, but they're not the units I should focus on for defence against Krill. His stack is heavy on pikes and mounted units, so I should be using a combination of axes (hopefully crossbows if I have time to get Machinery) and war elephants. Plus longbows of course - I'm finally almost at Feudalism, and cash from Bing will help my research for a bit (although not much, I'm still at less than 100bpt at 100% science, and don't really see it improving after Krill destroyed my military)

Rough terrian around Old Sharlayan will probably be enough of a deterrent for Krill to leave me be. As I said before, he doesn't need to expand to win the game. Bing's land he probably had an eye on for a while, and didn't see the need to change the plan because his cities changed hands. He could well be content for me to stick to my sandbox (the land I had from the start of the game). So I might survive, unfortunately I had to be left alone to intergrate Bing's cities into my empire to have any hope of pushing myself back into being somewhat relevant. Now I'm sandwiched between Thoth and Krill, and don't anticipate ever being in position to make gains against them through military. But of course, I will keep looking for an opportunity

[yuris125]

Now that we are where we are, I see it as my goal to build up a stack of the best units I have (elephants + catapults + whatever I can get to protect this stack against pikes), so that I have means to join a dogpile on Krill, should one materialise. If one doesn't, Krill will win at his leisure

[RefSteel]

Never could wrap my head around unit teleporting rules. If I move the stack as indicated, then send a peace offer to Bing, and he accepts, will the units be teleported to the city or back to where they are now? (lots of ifs, I know)

I know I'm too late for this to matter, but they would have been teleported to the city (as long as you still controlled the city at the time peace was made). Teleportation tries to move land units the minimum distance possible while also moving it as close as possible to your nearest city, favoring shorter-distance jumps by a factor of two to one. There are complications around tiebreakers (for cities, basically older cities win ties with newer ones; for destinations, southern tiles beat northern ones, then western tiles beat eastern ones, defined not relative to your unit but to the world wrap) and how distance is calculated (the longer of the x or y axis distance, plus half the shorter, rounded down) and it only cares about cities on the same landmass as the teleporting units, but in this case it was straightforward, with a city right there to jump to. (If you'd lost the city and then gotten peace with your units still where they were and the cultural situation otherwise unchanged, they would have teleported 1SW to the unroaded grassland village.)

I'm sorry your attempt to climb back into relevance got knocked down by Krill; good luck with the next stage, wherever it turns out to lead!