[NO PLAYERS] The WW46 Lurker Thread

[Winston Hughes]

Great to see ww return to rb.

If the timing's right, I'll definitely be up for joining a game here.

Basically, all of Day 1 everyone is putting on a show. Bad guys putting on a show that they're innocent and want to find bad guys. Good guys putting on a show to try and make other people act in ways that confirm their own personal biases on how a good guy or a bad guy should act. Then once someone is killed at the end of Day one, and *especially* after things happen during Night 1, you can start to tie those shows back to actual evidence of guilt or innocence, and the game gets a little more grounded.

The ways that the vets are going about this are pretty much all normal for each of them, but that's because they've played many games here and have established a pattern. And the new players are all A) confused what they're supposed to do, and/or B) bringing in their own patterns and meta from playing this in person in the past, in a way that vets aren't used to, which also creates conflict.

TL;DR: everyone's a wannabe Debate Club champion and is layering everything with intentional shenanigans, so I don't know what anyone's angle really is either.

[Bobchillingworth]

I don't think we've ever done a multi-scum faction setup here where a given scum's affiliation wasn't explicitly revealed upon death.

[Bobchillingworth]

Also, I haven't been following the various role and night action claims incredibly well, but if there's an action switcher (which seems to be what several players are assuming, based on Pin's one-shot vig claim), then they surely should have declared by now, right? There'd have been little reason for the scum to switch a night action onto Cyne, so the role should almost certainly be village, and a village action switcher corroborating Pin's story would come close to clearing them both. Plus Commodore is claiming Doctor, so he could potentially protect them at night to avoid immediate retribution.


Pin being a SK who decided to hold off killing anyone last night to sow confusion makes by far the most sense to me. The village doesn't know how many scum there are, so even if they lynch the final wolf, Pin can just go back to stabbing people and people may assume there's really three or four wolves or whatever.


Oh, or the wolves could have tried to eat Pin last night, who as SK is probably immune to night actions.


Or I guess Commodore saved someone, but is keeping it in his back pocket until they're about to by lynched, or something.

[Gaspar]

I'm not sure how SD manages to basically not play the game but somehow stumble into what I would call a reasonable vote everyday.

If I was alive I probably would have lost my shit on his last post though, which wouldn't be productive, which means its a good thing I'm dead.

[Gaspar]

I don't think we've ever done a multi-scum faction setup here where a given scum's affiliation wasn't explicitly revealed upon death.

Also, I haven't been following the various role and night action claims incredibly well, but if there's an action switcher (which seems to be what several players are assuming, based on Pin's one-shot vig claim), then they surely should have declared by now, right?  There'd have been little reason for the scum to switch a night action onto Cyne, so the role should almost certainly be village, and a village action switcher corroborating Pin's story would come close to clearing them both.  Plus Commodore is claiming Doctor, so he could potentially protect them at night to avoid immediate retribution.  


Pin being a SK who decided to hold off killing anyone last night to sow confusion makes by far the most sense to me.  The village doesn't know how many scum there are, so even if they lynch the final wolf, Pin can just go back to stabbing people and people may assume there's really three or four wolves or whatever.  


Oh, or the wolves could have tried to eat Pin last night, who as SK is probably immune to night actions.  


Or I guess Commodore saved someone, but is keeping it in his back pocket until they're about to by lynched, or something.

Both good points. The most logical resolution here is 1SK + 2 living wolves, no redirector and both pindicator and scooter were lying. Pindicator killed Meiz OR the scum have a strongman and killed Meiz. It seems far more likely that the SK killed Meiz, though, since scooter's only chance of living was with Lewwyn dead (and he nearly pulled it off.)

Commodore said he protected Serdoa last night, so I'd guess SK killed GKC and scum tried to kill Serdoa and failed due to doctor protection.

[GeneralKilCavalry]

Can't see why I would've been a good kill over commodore.

[Bobchillingworth]

I'm not sure how SD manages to basically not play the game but somehow stumble into what I would call a reasonable vote everyday.

Well, it'd be easy if he had insider knowledge as scum, and if he is scum he's no doubt being coached.

[Bobchillingworth]

Commodore said he protected Serdoa last night, so I'd guess SK killed GKC and scum tried to kill Serdoa and failed due to doctor protection.

Hmm... thinking on it, if I was scum, I'd have tried to kill Pin. Two reasons: first, he's probably going to be tough to eliminate otherwise, since being put up against scum Scooter probably gives him at least a little credibility with the village, and the remaining scum might be higher on the village's lynch list. Second, I'm pretty sure the SK role is almost always immune to night actions to prevent them from dying too early of upsetting a game balanced around dual potential night kills, so if the attack doesn't go through it comes close to confirming his role.

[scooter]

Next time I get vig I'll just shoot myself and spare myself your razors, occum or otherwise.

and meanwhile people who are doing scummy things- or very little at all, *ahem* -are being ignored

all part of the plan

This may be the messiest game of WW ever played, but nobody will ever call it boring.

[T-hawk]

To Brick, and feel free to evade or defer to whatever degree you deem necessary: Did you anticipate and/or intend that the game is turning so much into trying to guess the setup regarding roles and factions and everything?