American Politics Discussion Thread

[MJW (ya that one)]

She is moving to the right as much as possible because left-wingers are actually more motivated to vote against Trump than for her. The problem is that she is doing a very poor job of it because she is a bad candidate (I believe that Trump is worse and is hampered by abortion so she should win anyway). For example, accepting the Dick Cheney endorsement.

[darrelljs]

Saying anything to win isn't her being authentic?

It's funny because it's true   .

Darrell

[Charr Babies]

The only thing she is doing right is to distant herself from jo as much as possible, "Will not be a continuation of biden's presidency". Smart move but failed to say or demonstrate how. Empty talk, so expect the same.

"A New Way Forward' and 'It's Time to Turn the Page" Nice sound bite but another fail. She blames all the problem on trump, a new page from trump... 

"You've been vice president for three and a half years..." 

As presidents and your gang get all the credits, you also take all the blame. That's the deal. You don't get to take all the credits and then blame the other guy for your shit show. (as some people here so readily accept). We vote for people to fix problem, not to play the blame game.

[Mjmd]

I vote for people who haven't tried to overturn an election. There is a very good argument for country over party or anything else (and many Republicans are on record for this exact argument). Have to protect the pillars of our democracy or we are lost.

[Charr Babies]

I vote for people who haven't tried to overturn an election. There is a very good argument for country over party or anything else (and many Republicans are on record for this exact argument). Have to protect the pillars of our democracy or we are lost.

Indeed, our moral perspectives diverge significantly; I prioritize human life above everything else.

[Mjmd]

You prioritize blame in an obviously bias fashion. You ignore facts like past history, statements, and policy and you ignore likely future policy.

[superdeath]

I vote for people who haven't tried to overturn an election. There is a very good argument for country over party or anything else (and many Republicans are on record for this exact argument). Have to protect the pillars of our democracy or we are lost.

Indeed, our moral perspectives diverge significantly; I prioritize human life above everything else.

Abortion saves lives.

[greenline]

That's a weird way of selling it. Abortion obviously kills far more human lives than it saves; it's all about how you want to justify that.

[superdeath]

1. You can call them "human lives" if you wish, even if its not true.
2. The overwhelming majority of kids that would have been born had it not been for the abortions, would have been born into situations that are not great. We have a shitload of kids in need of adoption. We have a problem feeding people still. WHY would we want more poor/unwanted kids? OH YEAH, lets also gut any kind of early education or free daycare in alot of states. Brilliant.

3. Its the womans body. Her. Choice. Pretty simple. I dont get why it needs to go beyond that. If you had a brother that needed a kidney/blood and you were the only one that could supply it, No one can force you to supply it. Same basic premise. We have enough single moms as it is.

[greenline]

It is the woman's choice to kill the other human life inside her body. I believe traditional Rabbinic law lays it out as justified homicide, which is a much saner way of viewing it.