December 11th, 2009, 20:54
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Kalin,
Here's where we stand at T62 before either Byz or us have moved.
Lines indicate where I think we should move this turn, all dependent upon what Byz does of course.
X's indicate tiles that must be pillaged asap. I'd like to keep the rest of the roads intact if possible.
Derek "Hobbie" is at 3.7/4 Health but I think needs to move into the forest to join Dack Ralter so as to help protect him to go pillage. He can heal at some point in the future within their borders.
The worker we stole should probably spend one turn roading the tile 1SE of current position. It can not make into our borders and do something this turn anyways, and the tile he's currently on is the one you picked out for a possible city site. This is the only productive thing I can think of doing with him this turn.
December 11th, 2009, 21:19
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athlete4life10 Wrote:[
Here's where we stand at T62 before either Byz or us have moved.
Lines indicate where I think we should move this turn, all dependent upon what Byz does of course.
X's indicate tiles that must be pillaged asap. I'd like to keep the rest of the roads intact if possible.
Derek "Hobbie" is at 3.7/4 Health but I think needs to move into the forest to join Dack Ralter so as to help protect him to go pillage. He can heal at some point in the future within their borders.
The worker we stole should probably spend one turn roading the tile 1SE of current position. It can not make into our borders and do something this turn anyways, and the tile he's currently on is the one you picked out for a possible city site. This is the only productive thing I can think of doing with him this turn.
Hi Athlete,
You moved a bit ... differently from the way I would have. I think moving the warrior and Zev 1SW of Athens is quite risky. If they attack, they have a good chance of killing both units for 1 archer. First archer attacking the chariot gets 27% chance, but the chariot strength remaining on average is 1.5. Archer against warrior on hill gets 78%. Archer against injured chariot gets very high odds.
I would pillage all roads adjacent to Athens as well as the road on the horses. Why complicate our lives?
I would have moved Derek last turn either 1NW or 1NE. Now it's 3T away from Athens. Sure it was injured, but even at 3.3 with C2 would have gotten odds on archers.
The stolen worker should move 2E1S on the forest and chop that into Endor's granary.
If we don't lose Zev and Dice (hope dies last  ), then moving dice 1NW on the forest hill is good, but Zev should head back. I think we should stack our 3 chariots, then go on the hills and pillage.
If we lose them, we reassess based on the situation.
Those were my thoughts
Kalin
December 12th, 2009, 08:46
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Interesting: I logged in the game and Byz hasn't played. Similar to last time: it's more than 12 hours of real time, but less on the game timer. I could have moved and make an argument  but decided not to, as again I feel it would be against the spirit of the rule. Let's hope this won't come to bite us back.
Kalin
December 12th, 2009, 12:27
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kalin Wrote:Interesting: I logged in the game and Byz hasn't played. Similar to last time: it's more than 12 hours of real time, but less on the game timer. I could have moved and make an argument but decided not to, as again I feel it would be against the spirit of the rule. Let's hope this won't come to bite us back.
Kalin
I doubt it. Sunrise posted in the tech thread what's going on. Any chance when you were logged in last you saw what he did? Did he attack? If you can post or e-mail me a pic of the war zone than we could discuss and you could play the turn before I'll be ready to (about 6ishpm).
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December 12th, 2009, 12:43
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Byzantium moved an archer from the capital 2W on the forested hill to protect the worker and didn't attack. Our troops survived, yay!
Athlete, please don't move the units around Athens until we agree on them. I am thinking that Dice could move 1W, 1SW, or 1SE. I would move Zev 2SE on the forest and would stack it on the same tile with Derek (char at 3.7). I would pillage the horse road with Dack.
The Byz worker moves to chop the Endor forest.
Kalin
P.S.: I wrote this a while back but forgot to post.
December 12th, 2009, 13:01
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kalin Wrote:Byzantium moved an archer from the capital 2W on the forested hill to protect the worker and didn't attack. Our troops survived, yay! 
Athlete, please don't move the units around Athens until we agree on them. I am thinking that Dice could move 1W, 1SW, or 1SE. I would move Zev 2SE on the forest and would stack it on the same tile with Derek (char at 3.7). I would pillage the horse road with Dack.
The Byz worker moves to chop the Endor forest.
Kalin
P.S.: I wrote this a while back but forgot to post.
I think Dice should move 1W. Agree with all other moves.
Feel free to play the turn if you agree with Dice and can do so before me. Thanks!
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December 12th, 2009, 14:27
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athlete4life10 Wrote:I think Dice should move 1W. Agree with all other moves.
Feel free to play the turn if you agree with Dice and can do so before me. Thanks!
We were last, so I played.
Dice moved 1W on forest hill. 2 chariots moved on a plains hill 3S1W of Athens, and Dack pillaged the horse road. Worker moved into forest by Endor.
We should discuss next moves.
Kalin
December 13th, 2009, 06:33
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Kalin,
Dice is fortified and I think should stay that way.
Dack Ralter should move 1NW and depending on what he sees then move 1W. This places him 1S of Athens.
Derek and Zev should then join him.
Chariot from Coruscant has started moving to the front lines. Owen put another turn into a chop. Byz worker started chopping and Beru is roading the cows.
December 13th, 2009, 10:40
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athlete4life10 Wrote:Dice is fortified and I think should stay that way.
Dack Ralter should move 1NW and depending on what he sees then move 1W. This places him 1S of Athens.
Derek and Zev should then join him.
Chariot from Coruscant has started moving to the front lines. Owen put another turn into a chop. Byz worker started chopping and Beru is roading the cows.
Hi Athlete,
I agree on Dice. She cannot contribute much, but will hamper worker movement and she cannot be easily dislodged. We may move her on the hill 1W of Athens when the chariots get there.
I moved the chariots differently. I pillaged the road 1SE of Athens, and left Zev 2S of Athens as bait. They can kill it with 2 archers, but they would lose both, so I doubt they'll take it. They now have 3 archers in Athens, and may move 1 archer 1W on the hill, which means we won't be able to pillage it... If they don't all 3 chariots should move on the hill 1W of Athens.
I think I understand why Beru is roading (barb right?). He should however start chopping immediately. I moved the warrior by Kashyyk so that he can get into the forest to protect the worker. The new chariot would kill the barb.
I think both capital and Kashyyk should go granary-barracks with as many chops as possible, then HAs.
Kalin
December 14th, 2009, 10:15
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Byzantium moved everything inside the city (4 archers, 2 workers), so we followed suit and moved everything (3 chariots and 1 warrior) on the hill 1W of Athens. The plan I suggest is: 2 healthy chariots pillage, warrior moves 1NW to the other mine, injured chariot heals for 1 turn.
Important: the new chariot by Endor should move on the road NW-NW, then back... unless of course it sees some unprotected workers on the horses  (it's good to dream, right).
Coruscant should whip granary. Worker that finished chopping should camp the deer I think, or go to Coruscant... The rest I think it's quite obvious.
In other diplo news: we asked HRE for open borders, and continued to discuss alliance with the Greeks and collaboration with Rome.
Kalin
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