[SPOILERS] Kurumi & wetbandit serve you Hannibal's Breakfast Cocktail (of Persia)

[wetbandit]

Two other things:

1. Teleh asked if we want to rename the thread, what are your thoughts? My suggestion: There is apparently a drink named Hannibal's Breakfast Cocktail. Seems similar to a Bloody Mary or Bloody Caesar (i.e. Vodka). We can have that and some combination of our names.

2. I should just send my spreadsheet, that looks messy.

[Kurumi]

Two other things:

1. Teleh asked if we want to rename the thread, what are your thoughts? My suggestion: There is apparently a drink named Hannibal's Breakfast Cocktail. Seems similar to a Bloody Mary or Bloody Caesar (i.e. Vodka). We can have that and some combination of our names.

2. I should just send my spreadsheet, that looks messy.

Damn, you did a lot better job at sim than I did! Hope I will find a niche for myself... Name is cool! Just include our awesome names

[wetbandit]

Thanks, we'll see if it actually works out in the PB instance. I'll PM teleh then.

Second test is that AH first is comparable and may be stronger if we SIP. We don't get a warrior until EOT 38, but we save 4 forests and can probably get the first settler out a tad quicker. Start settler at SZ 5 on T39 and worker is chopping into it. There is some upside with this play if we have horses on the spot 2S; the worker will have something to do and our time will improve maybe by a turn or two.

AH-Fishing-Mining-BW
turn Sz Food Hammers Produce Commerce Research Tech
0 1 0 4 Worker 10 14/161 AH
1 1 0 8 Worker 10 28/161
2 1 0 12 Worker 10 42
3 1 0 16 Worker 10 56
4 1 0 20 Worker 10 70
5 1 0 24 Worker 10 84
6 1 0 28 Worker 10 98/161
7 1 0 32 Worker 10 112/161
8 1 0 36 Worker 10 126/161
9 1 0 40 Worker 10 140/161
10 1 0 44 Worker 10 156/161
11 1 0 48 Worker 10 170/161 AH Done
12 1 0 52 Worker 10 15/64 Fishing
13 1 0 56 Worker 10 25/64 Fishing
14 1 0 60 Worker 10 35/64 Fishing Worker #1
15 1 2/22 2 Warrior 10 45/64 Fishing Worker Finish, Past 1/4
16 1 4/22 4 Warrior 10 55/64 Fishing Past 2/4
17 1 6/22 6 Warrior 10 65/64 Fishing Past 3/4
18 1 9/22 4 WB 10 11/79 Mining Past 4/4
19 1 12/22 8 WB 10 21/79 Mining
20 1 15/22 12 WB 10 31/79 Mining
21 1 18/22 16 WB 10 41/79 Mining
22 1 21/22 20 WB 10 51/79 Mining
23 2 2/24 24 WB 10 61/79 Mining
24 2 4/24 30 WB 10 71/79 Mining
25 2 9/24 4 WB 10 81/79 Mining
26 2 14/24 8 WB 13 21/193 BW
27 2 19/24 12 WB 13 36/193 Net Clam
28 2 24/24 16 13 51/193
29 3 3/26 23 16 66/193 BW
30 3 6/26 30 WB finishes 16 81/193 AH
31 2 13/26 4 WB 16 100/93 AH
32 3 20/26 8 16 119/161 AH
33 3 27/26 12 16 138/161 AH
34 4 6/28 19 16 157/161 AH
35 4 12/28 25 WB 16 154/161 AH
36 4 18/28 30 WB 16 176/161 AH
37 4 23/28 7 Warrior
38 4 28/28 15 Warrior

[Kurumi]

Good job on discovering that AH start might be a better alternative. I wonder if we should be a little more scared about getting a warrior stumble upon us... Second city is good news... usually. I hope next city spot won't be awkwardly distant. Of course horses could help us, but I think it will be hard to defend two cities with one warrior without Slavery yet revolted in.

[wetbandit]

The second city comes out so slow under either option, I'll see if there's something quicker. The 2nd city on the GLH to share food and is close enough that we can fake a defense. We also have to figure out under any scenario when we revolt to slavery.

[wetbandit]

Game is up, I logged in, but didn't move anything. I set our password as

popovpopov77

I'll run some more sims, but we can scout to see how we should go. Do you think scouting west is the right move?

[wetbandit]

After looking, I think we should scout first to see what the GLH shows and then either:

1: SIP if no fishing resources show on GLH

2: Move 1E if there is a fishing resource

3: Then pray there's an AGRI resource on the GL 2S of start.

[Kurumi]

Scout either W of cow or S of current position. I think we should go S and sip no matter what, but I am probably wrong.

[Kurumi]

So I took a quick peek and there's one thing that I have discovered: that water 2S of our lovely forested grassland hill 1W of cows is a lake!

EDIT: I will figure this dropbox thing soon.
EDIT2: Got it~ Also I changed our civilization name to Vodka Brawlers and our short adjective is Vodkans. Feel free to change that! I think we should name our capital Breakfast Cocktail so we're consistent :D

[wetbandit]

Lakes are always good, thumbs up on the name changes.

I think we should scout west, since it might make us move 1E. But if you feel that strongly about 1S, I'm not going to argue. This is me also asking you to scout, if you see anything, post it. If not, then play the rest of the turn and I guess we'll start with the AH plan since it saves us forests.