[SPOILERS] Team EggHeads: DMOC and TeddyKGB (Now Lurker-Friendly!)

[DMOC]

Thanks for playing the turn!

Looks good so far ... comments to come later.

[TeddyKGB]

T53.
Contact with SutOxy. Switch EP to them.
Pottery next turn. There is a chance we'll be on top of scoreboard.
Demos still sucks.
Draft message to SutOxy?

[TeddyKGB]

Some diplo exchange.

With CareBears.

Dick DMOC <dick76dmoc@gmail.com>

5:21 AM (1 hour ago)

to Care
Hi CareBears,

Our team had to put 4EP on you on T52 for total 56EP.
On turn 53 we've contact SutOxy, so we gladly stop EP on you right away.

SutOxy's scout is near M&M's border right now and our team would be glad to help you contact them asap.

About screenshots exchange.
We are interested in some areas between our capitals, but I'm afraid our scouts paths were pretty similar - closer to coast.
We could offer you some screenshots of the land between you and M&M if you are interested. Or if your scout survive Lion, we could offer you screenshots of the land between us and LP to help your scout contact his team.

Also, we are interested in establishing trade routes with your team.
Would you agree to Open Borders between our team in the near future?

We are wellcome any information exchange between our teams. Of course, it would not be disclose to other teams.

On this matter, we are worried about Orgy team a bit. After stonehenge built, they probably found religion and could be on fast Oracle track next.
Could you beat LP to Oracle?
Anyways, rival best GNP is pretty insane at the moment. And we are almost sure its team Orgy's GNP.

Here is screenshot of some land between you and team M&M. Hope its useful to you.

-TeddyKGB, team EggHeads

With SutOxy.

Dick DMOC <dick76dmoc@gmail.com>

4:44 AM (1 hour ago)

to ecpb14
Hello Suttree and Oxyphenbutazone,

Greetings from team EggHeads! Our scouts just meet near M&M's borders.

As you probably know, our team neighbours are LP(west) and CareBears(east).
Since our teams not neighbours to each other, there are no reasons we couldn't establish long term cooperation for mutual benefits.

If you are interested, we could start with:
- NAP. T80? T100? More?
- Open Borders for trading resources and extra GNP.
- Fair exchange of screenshots to help each other with exploration.
- Sharing wonders plans to avoid waste hammers.
- Anything else?

You are our 3rd contact in PB14. We've met M&M and CareBears. Still have no contact with LP.
Did you contact LP and CareBears?
Do you need any help to guide your scout?

It is my understanding Kurumi and HBHR step away from PB14 at the moment, am I right?

Our team leader is DMOC. He is conduct most of diplomacy. But hes busy with real life now.


All the best,

TeddyKGB, team EggHeads.

eagles and condors

4:46 AM (1 hour ago)

to me
Greetings Most Excellent Eggheads!

We met your scout this turn and our scribes are busy drafting a proper letter of introduction. You can always reach us here at ecpb14@gmail.com.

-The OxySuttocratic Republic smile

[TeddyKGB]

Two more screenshots.
As Asterix mention, SutOxy have Writing already.

[TeddyKGB]

Care Bears

10:03 AM (8 hours ago)

to me
Hi EggHeads,
Thanks for your reply and the screenshot. Actually most of this information was already known to us
Let us share with you this map of your Northeast.

About open borders : sure we would be interested. However sea trade routes seem out of question on this map. Besides, we are not planning to research Writing in short future but perhaps you'll want to tech it quick for you Creative trait.
Obviously we won't disclose any information you share with us to third parties without your permission. This goes without saying
Our scout unfortunately died. This means we won't be able to meet LP soon.
About the Oracle : we have indeed started building it. I wish we have good chances of success here!
Nice to hear about SutOxy. We are eager to meet them too.

The Care Bears

[TeddyKGB]

Cities (after Mansa/Zulu planted 3rd):

(5) Vicky/India: Turns 28, 37, 42, 50
(3) Pacal/NA: Turn 36, 43
(3) Isabella/Inca: Turn 33, 46
(3) Us: Turn 33, 50
(3) M&M (Willem): Turn 38, 52
(2) GG (Ragnar): Turn 38
(3) Mansa/Zulu: Turn 38, 53
(2) Darius/England: Turn 39
(2) Orgy (HC/Dutch): Turn 42
(2) Pony (Nap/Sumeria): Turn 49

Diplo.
Still no answer from SutOxy. Are they consulting with LP?
Screenshot I sent to India show Horses locations to them (I'm sure they don't have AH yet). Maybe too much info, but I didn't thought about it at the time.
Their answer suggest on T50 they finished PH and start Oracle (could be in city#2 as espionage screenshot show they have sizable hammers there). Good luck to them. I really don't want LP get it.
Screenshot India sent back show another cow, making city location with rice, 2 cows and spice even more desirable for us. We are still probably should plant copper city first.

Domestic.
Next turn we should decide what we want to put hammers in MIT for 1 turn. It could be settler or granary. On T55 we should start another warrior in MIT to get overflow on T57 which allow us complete 1st chariot in 1 turn in MIT.
I'd like MIT produce granary before grow to size4, but we need more settlers as well.
Any suggestions?

[TeddyKGB]

Msg to India.

Hi CareBears,

Thank you for screenshot. Though, as I said, our scouts paths were pretty similar, so not much new info here for us either.
But its important to keep building trust and cooperation between our teams, as I see diplo situation right now.
What area of the map you'd be interested to get screenshots from us?
Our exploration wasn't perfect, but as an option, we could exchange mini map screenshots and decide what we both want to get from each other in form of screenshots.

Our team thinks its 5x2 layout on this map. While our 'continent' have no AGG Rome and all 5 teams here could probably avoid early military escalation, there is an IND LP here (personally, I think, he is a strong favorite to win PB14).
What you think of Lord Parkin and his team progress so far?

Our writing timing should be a bit late - in the early 60th. And we are not sure about Sailing timing for us yet. So, as you said, sea trade routes is problematic.

SutOxy already have writing, btw. Probably just finished it on T53.
Their scout healing SouthEast of M&M's capital borders right now.
Do you have any units in that direction to arrange your contact with SutOxy?
Would you like us to inform SutOxy's scout which way to go for fastest contact with you?

Sorry to hear about your scout.
Could you tell us (or screenshot) his last position on the map?
Our 4th city planned to go this way, near Corn. Its even slightly in the west (LP) direction from our capital.

Our team wish you all the luck to complete Oracle first. As you understand, we are not compete for Oracle, nor we tell any other teams you aiming for it (we won't disclose any important info from you to other teams, this goes without saying). I'd like you get Oracle before LP, though. So, good luck and hope you win this race.

By the way since we get along well with each other we could give you an information if you agreed not to disclose it.

Could you tell us what info you meant? We are already agreed not to disclose any info from each other.

-TeddyKGB

Msg to M&M.

Hi, thanks again for your help to contact SutOxy scout.

They finished writing on T53, am I right?
Since they got AH (1st tech they researched according to our C&D) and BW (Slavery), can you confirm they skip Pottery and maybe Wheel?
I didn't look close into their score and other info, maybe I'm wrong here.

Here is screenshot of our scout current location, in case you need it.
<screenshot of our scout current location>

[TeddyKGB]

After some time SutOxy reply. Seems Asterix was right, these guys will avoid open borders topic, since their master not allow it.
I'd like reconfigure our continent diplo from 3vs2 to 4vs1, though. LP not need any more help to win PB14.
NAP till T100 is acceptable, I think, as a start. It means nothing anyway, cause we are obv not ready rush them on T100.

eagles and condors

1:18 AM (1 hour ago)

to me
Dear EggHeads,

Thanks for the friendly greeting, we agree that our two civs are natural partners!
We have yet to contact the Carebears but have been in contact with Maga/ Asterix and team Orgynized for some time. LP is about 30 tiles east from Maga's capital. Here is a rough sketch of what we believe the map to be

(Toroidal Map Wrap)

????--------------????-------------????---------------????---------------????

(Water Barrier)

Care Bears-----Eggheads--------Asterix-------Eagles&Condors---Orgy

(Toroidal Map Wrap)

We have had no contact with the "northern civilizations." We also have not made contact with the Care Bears.

Kurumi and HBHR have both stepped away from the game, yes. Oxy and I were more than happy to take over the reigns.

We are just as open to working together as you guys are. We would be happy to sign a NAP to turn 100 to start. We are also willing to negotiate for a lengthier NAP if you guys would prefer. If you have any more specific proposals, let us know. I'm sure we could work something out.

Regards,
Eagles and Condors

They are mistaken or deliberately switch us with CareBears on their map view. I'll reply to make it right. Also I say we agree to NAP till T100. Nothing wrong with it, and it show them good will from us, in my opinion.

[TeddyKGB]

Reply to SutOxy.

Dear Sut and Oxy (is it ok I call you like that?),

Thank you for friendly reply. Its nice to hear you think of us as natural partners. We are think so too.

Let me correct you - our continent is:

You -- LP -- Us -- CareBears -- M&M(Asterix) -- You again

I'm pretty sure its the right picture.

I would like our diplo exchange stay confident, but its up to you.
Our team promisse never share important information from you to the other teams, this goes without saying.

I did mention to CareBears we contact you, and they are very interested to establish fast contact with you. As I said, their capital west of M&M. Our team could help you with scout moves, if you need. But its pretty straight forward west from your current scout position.
We could send you some screenshots, so you know where forests are to protect your scout on the way.

I confirm, our team agree to NAP till T100.
Thats just formality, still we think all teams on our continent prefers peaceful expansion instead military race with ancient units.
Other continent have AGG Rome, so just let these guys put hammers into ancient units. Our both teams were lucky here.

What you think about your neighbours?
Do you trust them? Could you tell us what current diplo deals you have with them?
We are try to be peaceful and cooperative with every team on our continent. We had some NAPs with M&M and CareBears. Some other minor deals too (EP and establishing trade routes).
Its a possibility - our continent could turn into lovefest, while other 5 teams fights early wars. What you think about it?

As for 'any more specific proposals', I've notice you have writing already. What about OB agreement?
You can scout us as well, as long you dont share this info with a 3rd party.
Later in game, we could establish trade routes and mutual profit from it.
We could trade some resourses as well. Our team have 2 horses and 2 copper near. We also have Dye's and Spice's for trade after Calendar.
What resources do you have to trade?

As for EP spending, our team will put max EP on you right now. We had some EP war already with CareBears, as you can see. And we put too much on Asterix to make him nervous. We are not ready to make EP agreement with you right now, but once we meet LP - we will.
We'll try to keep our EP on you low, but right now, before LP contact, we have no other choise, sorry.

-TeddyKGB, team EggHeads.

[TeddyKGB]

I was trying to avoid antiLP too much in this message. Still, there is something SutOxy could think about.
We are probably wants they are turned away from LP to 4vs1 configuration on our continent, as I said.

So, diplo situation, as I see it right now.
- M&M. Long term ally. Possibly military action together against India after Knights.
- India. Strong partner with 3vs2 config. Just put some more fear about LP in them. We need their full cooperation if we decide to strike LP first. We don't want they agree with LP to dogpile us before knighs.
- SutOxy. Lot of potential here. Establish trust, know what are they think about LP, turn them around if necessary.
- LP. We should be friendly and cooperative, as well. Let him talk mostly, and praise his wisdom from time to time in diplo exchange. I still think India is a softer target after knights, but we'll see.
- Other 5 teams. City#4 could go Granary->WorkBoat with 2 chops fast. We can explore and contact. I very doubt we could circumnav with boat on this map, though.