WW #43 - The Asha'man

[Rowain]

Jabbz, does the hider role work the way you describe it in the setup thread?

Town Hider
You are a Town Hider.
Abilities
During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
Hider: During the Night, you may PM me the name of another player. You will "hide" behind that player, making you immune to any actions that target you. However, if you hide behind a non-Town-aligned player, you will die.
Win Condition
You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.

AFAIR someone who discarded Hider said that he asked Jabbz and got info that he would also die if he hid behind nightkill.

[novice]

Gazglum, are you sure you didn't scan me on night 1?

...yes? Are you about to spring some bizarre trap on me?

It's just that you posted this early on D2:

This game has been an absolute classic so far. I'm glad we didn't start over. I also feel like Town is in really good shape here. With the discard info + knowing exactly which alignments were on the block Day 1, we have a huge amount of data to mine.

Then there is Jkaen, now almost confirmed town in my eyes. Adrien could have been alone as a mason, but there is no way scum could have known that, so making a fake-claim at that point would be like playing russian roulette with three bullets. Their behaviour Day 1 also seems to bear out the story.

Knowing we had masons and a roleblocker, I am now dismissing any thought that scum might have had only 2 members. I think they must have 3 to compete against this, and so I am looking for 3 scum out of:

Prometheus
DP101
Meiz
Fenn
Lewwyn
Rowain
Zak

And of those, I have a pretty hard meta-town + instinctive town lean on Zak. So the odds are not bad today.

Seems odd that Fenn is on that list but not I. I was sure this was you breadcrumbing a town scan on me. Which is why I later posted

Gazglum, I must say I'm surprised to see me appearing on your scum list.

So let's just say I'm interested to hear your N2 results.

[Gazglum]

Honestly, I'm mostly doing that because I don't trust my own reads that much right now. I'm kind of still figuring out exactly what I consider scum tells and village tells, and in the meantime I don't really want to muddle the waters too much with stupid and inane theories.

How are you going with differentiating between scum and village these days Dp101?

[novice]

My bet is on Zak wanting to clear his brother novice, sensing there's going to be a lot of votes on him today.

We should definitely scour Zak's posts for breadcrumbs.

[Gazglum]

Ah ha ha, a touch Novice! Trap well sprung.

That was just a mind-blank. I put Fenn on the list to hide the fact I had scanned him. I intended it to be a complete list. I apparently just forgot to put you onto it. That may sound unconvincing, I guess in my favour I point to the rest of my game?

I do have a result, and will be happy to share it a little later on.

[Meiz]

I did, he was gunning for DP101 due to his attacks against you.

[Rowain]

From those 4 not cleared on my list I think Meiz is most likely town.
Although I would like to learn what role had enough lure so discarded 1-shot-vig.

For the other 3: Dp101: His posts so far fit for scum and he was also the one who voted for me besides Prometheus. He didn't want to lynch Prometheus. (Bussing a scumbuddy is hard if you are both newbie scums).

Lewwyn: He had a short and nice discussion with DP101 which resulted in nothing serious . The kind of discussion scum might do with each other to create content. As already mentioned by others there has been rather little scum-hunting from Lewwyn. When he places his final vote on Prometheus last day there was no alternate waggon in sight.

novice: He is the ione I would trust to discard Godfather and play an alternate scumrole . He would also easily bus a fellow scum if he feels he wins that way. And he continues to say that I would be a good lynch later on. which is a very scummie thing to say because imagine an endgame me + 1 other town + 1 scum. With novices groundwork it will easily become a lynch- rowain result ending with a loss.

[Gazglum]

Day 1

I just really want to get to later days when we actually have enough information to start scumhunting in ernest. Although yes, I most likely will go to bed in the next few hours.

Day 2

The others I don't really have a feel on right now. Mostly I just need to organise my thoughts and figure out which scum tells are more important.

Sorry for my poor participation so far, I finally have access to a computer rather than my phone for a substantial amount of time, and I have been waiting for enough interesting things to occur in game to make a decent post. I will start catching up, and then elaborate on my reads.

Further suspects will have to wait until more votes come in, my reads on everyone else are either town (like Gaz) or muddled (like everyone else).

Dp101

[Jabbz]

Jabbz, does the hider role work the way you describe it in the setup thread?

Town Hider
You are a Town Hider.
Abilities
During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
Hider: During the Night, you may PM me the name of another player. You will "hide" behind that player, making you immune to any actions that target you. However, if you hide behind a non-Town-aligned player, you will die.
Win Condition
You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.

The only addition, which I sent to everyone who got hider as one of their options, is that if they hide behind someone that gets killed, they die as well. Sorry I didn't update that.

[Dp101]

Honestly, I'm mostly doing that because I don't trust my own reads that much right now. I'm kind of still figuring out exactly what I consider scum tells and village tells, and in the meantime I don't really want to muddle the waters too much with stupid and inane theories.

How are you going with differentiating between scum and village these days Dp101?

Well given my voting record apparently pretty badly . I'm feeling pretty annoyed with myself for only being a burden on town and not being that useful when it comes to killing scum. Right now I have a town lean on you for being generally consistent with your actions and your role explaining your weird discard. I'm a little suspicious of Rowain and Novice still, their behaviour still feels very odd. Lew is still firmly in the scum section of my thoughts, and Meiz is joining him due to weak contribution. Fenn is pretty much confirmed town by now.