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mostly_harmless Wrote:If I put the HG back into the 1st place it has no hammers invested (which is correct as there were none previously. ...) Ah - didn't realize that. Okay.
Quote:Yes, that's what I want to do, as I cannot think of anything else to try.
I meant to suggest trying it on the current turn, to see if that helped, but that was a bit of a long-shot suggestion, which I realize probably would accomplish nothing.
Hmmm ... a strange bug indeed. I'll post in the public players' thread momentarily.
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From looking in other players' threads, this doesn't seem to be a bug. I don't have the PBEM experience to say for sure, though.
It's hard not to post spoilers, but it looks like you were beaten to the wonder by someone playing before you in the turn-order who had 1 turn on the HG before hitting enter on T60. The game credits this civ with the wonder before you play your T60.
Unlike in SP, the HG got thrown out of the queue, which saves you wasting hammers on it. As in SP, you can still choose to work the Wonder even though it's BIAFL on T60. Completion messages only come at the start of T61.
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Well, Swiss, that could be the explanation then.
I will play my turn assuming I lost the HG to sooooo.
I think he will post the successful finish of the wonder in his forum pretty soon.
I would appreciate if someone could relay this info here for me. I will get the info on my T61 anyway. It is just a thing whether to pursue the "bug" further (and I don't want everybody else play and invest more effort before the game comes back to me and I can see the HG for myself). If he does not built the HG on his T61, I want to argue further to let me replay.
Thanks in advance.
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It's probably best if you email, or chat sooooo directly, as he doesn't give much away in his thread.
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Swiss Pauli Wrote:Unlike in SP, the HG got thrown out of the queue, which saves you wasting hammers on it.
Just thinking about this some more. Say I would have liked those hammers converted into refund-cash?
mh
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(This post was last modified: July 3rd, 2009, 11:40 by RefSteel.)
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mostly_harmless Wrote:Just thinking about this some more. Say I would have liked those hammers converted into refund-cash? Indeed - also, why on earth would it take the Gardens out of your build queue, but not out of your buildable list, and never inform you of why this happened? A documented bug is a feature (heh) but where's the documentation here, even if Swiss Pauli is right?
(Also, I believe Ruff sent you an e-mail that may be pertinent to the situation, but as I believe it was sent after he played his Turn 61, before it was decided that the turns would be replayed, I advise not changing your planned Turn 60 actions in response to any spoilers it might contain.)
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RefSteel Wrote:(Also, I believe Ruff sent you an e-mail that may be pertinent to the situation, but as I believe it was sent after he played his Turn 61, before it was decided that the turns would be replayed, I advise not changing your planned Turn 60 actions in response to any spoilers it might contain.) Yes, that is correct. After ruffs T61 I know now that I have no chance on landing the HG. Turn order would rule on who gets the wonder if two civs finish it at the same turn. In that respect I am always last. 
Anyway, I am not going to exploit that knowledge. The chops/overflow will hopefully go into HG as initially planned. I will continue my T60 like I did not know about sooooo's HG. That means worker starts chopping the designated forest and HG stays selected.
T60 finished.
T61 begins:
sooooo has one more turn to complete the HG. Since he is first in the turn order he is guaranteed to get it if noone else finishes it in T61, like Dreylin or athlete (this is actually why I could not post anything more specific in the public forums).
Ruff spybombs and passes the info about sooooo's HG progress on to me.
As I have no chance to land the wonder, even if I chop, whip, rush buy it on T61, I will have to decide what to do. Probably switching to a library and completing the chop?
And I will receive some cash refund (less than normally, with the new patch).
That's how it was supposed to be played out, without that weird occurence. And this is how I will play it out, no spoilers, no exploits.
But damn, not getting the HG!!!!!!!
At least I don't have to rush my settlers now.
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I had the same queue-swap 'bug' in a private game I played yesterday: lined up a forge behind Maosoleum so as not to forget it, and the builds were switched in the inter-turn. Sorry about the bum-steer the other day, this really looks like a new bug in 3.19.
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Swiss Pauli Wrote:I had the same queue-swap 'bug' in a private game I played yesterday: lined up a forge behind Maosoleum so as not to forget it, and the builds were switched in the inter-turn. Sorry about the bum-steer the other day, this really looks like a new bug in 3.19. In Single Player?
Good to have confirmation on this from someone else.
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Swiss Pauli Wrote:I had the same queue-swap 'bug' in a private game I played yesterday: lined up a forge behind Maosoleum so as not to forget it, and the builds were switched in the inter-turn. Sorry about the bum-steer the other day, this really looks like a new bug in 3.19. Do you still have the before and after save files? I'm hoping information on the bug can be posted somewhere like the Civfanatics bug report forum where someone might find a fix for it, and I'd imagine saves would be helpful. (Although if we continue this discussion we should probably take it out of this thread, as long as we don't mention details specific to what happened to m_h in the PBEM....)
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