RB PBEM #1 - Gandhi [spoilers]

[Ruff_Hi]

I think we all have to run the risk of getting some slight spoilers and maybe some ideas you may not have gotten yourself, rather than having no interaction in the threads. That's at least my opinion.

yeah - I think I am heading in that direction myself.

For what it's worth, I think all the threads contain some help or some slightly spoiler information, so if ... I mean when you win, you won't need to worry it was because of my Commando promo suggestion.

fair enough!

[Ruff_Hi]

We, the undersigned, formally acknowledge and agree the following:

• DeTOG will be dissolved.
  
• An new alliance (hereafter referred to as GaPR - Green and Pink Rock) between the Indian Kingdom of Ruff and the Ottoman Empire of Dreylin II.
  
• Based upon our years of history and mutual support, we both agree never to declare war on each other.
  
• Individual technology trades are based on mutual agreement
  
• No technology deals will be made with nations outside of GaPR.
  
• In matters of Defense, the GaPR members shall cooperate as necessary to ensure mutual benefit and safety.
  
• All resource trades are at the discretion of the owner of the resource, but it is expected that one of the excess, non-corporation based resources will be traded if the other party in GaPR is lacking that resource (Note: This resource trade clause is currently suspended).
  
• All spying actions are allowable between members of GaPR except the following:
  • forced civic changes
    
  • forced religion changes
    
  • poisoning of wells
    
  • foment unhappiness
    
  • destroying of resource improvements
    

Transition Arrangements

The following transition arrangements will be honoured.

• The Kingdom of India will trade Democracy to the Ottoman Empire at the next opportunity
  
• The Ottoman Empire will trade Rocketry to the Kingdom of India at the next opportunity
  
• The resource trade clause under GaPR is current suspended
  
• All current resource trades will be canceled once the Kingdom of India starts to build the Apollo project or Greece is destroyed (which ever occurs first) and the resource trade clause under GaPR becomes active
  
• The Kingdom of India will not sandbag regarding the destruction of Greece
  
• The Kingdom of India agrees not to build the Eiffel Tower
  
• The Ottoman Empire agrees not to build the Statue of Liberty
  

Ruff_Hi for the Indian Kingdom
Dreylin II for the Ottoman Empire

Lurkers - please let me know if Dreylin's version of our agreement differs.

[regoarrarr]

Lurkers - please let me know if Dreylin's version of our agreement differs.

I'm sorry that would be against the lurker code of conduct

[Ruff_Hi]

I'm sorry that would be against the lurker code of conduct

This game doesn't have a lurker code of conduct.

[novice]

So can you keep Dreylin from victory by continually revolting his cities - or will that cost too many EPs?

[Cyneheard]

And wouldn't you only need to continually revolt ONE of his cities?

[Ruff_Hi]

So can you keep Dreylin from victory by continually revolting his cities - or will that cost too many EPs?

And wouldn't you only need to continually revolt ONE of his cities?

Revolting a city is pretty cheap. I could get it as low as 300EPs against Sooooo. I generate 120EPs per turn at 0%.

[Ruff_Hi]

• Cities:
  • FF: Tank -> Tank [1]
    
  • LQ: Tank -> Tank [1]
    
  • DV: Tank -> Tank [1]
    
  • BH: Tank -> Tank [1]
    
  • BS: Paratrooper [1]
    
  • AC: Paratrooper [1]
    
  • TN: Tank -> Mining Exec [2]
    
  • KS: Paratrooper [2]
    
  • SL: Paratrooper [1]
    
  • MD: Paratrooper [2]
    
  • EC: Paratrooper [1]
    
  • NB: Paratrooper [2]
    
  • Sparta!: Wealth but in revolt [6]
    
• Tech: Military Science [18], +189g at 0% science, 51g in the bank
  
• Opponent Tech:
  • sooooo - Radio [12], 61g, -20g @ 0% tech
    
  • mostly harmless - Ratio [5293], 308g, up from 66g (+157 per turn)
    

Sooooo is -20gpt at 0% tech. His capital only generates 19 commerce (down from 75 originally). He will start losing troops soon ... well, unless I start taking cities . Dreylin declared war on Sooooo and cut the trade routes between him and mh. Thus I can cut his oil (1 well bombed, a spy currently sitting on the other) and force him to spend worker turns reconnecting.

I also drafted 3 more infantry and then revolted to Vassalage for the extra 2XPs. Now BH and FF are putting out 11XP tanks - only 14 more XPs for commando tanks .

That city with mh fighters that was putting cultural pressure on the tiles leading to Sparta is no more. I will lose a GG tank but I think it is worth it. The aim of the game for me at the moment is SPEED.



That removed the cultural pressure and allowed me to move units forward quickly. It also gave me some gold and I upgraded 8 of my 12 rifles to infantry. They will form the Sparta defense force.

Removing that cultural also allows me to put a fort 1 tile closer to Sooooo. I also sent 3 bombers into a Northern Ottoman city to terrorize Greece even more. And to really rub it in, I am sending some workers to the pink square to build a fort .

[Ruff_Hi]

Sooooo's remaining cities ...

Thebes - 14, 25%
Athens - 43 hammers, Forge, HEpic
Argos - 19, 50%
Knossos - 10, 50%
Mycenae - 14, 50%
Pharelos - 6, 25%
Ephesus - 17, 25%
Halicarnassus - 26, 50% <-- this is way up in the NE
Rhodes - 3, 25%
Eretria - 3, 25%
Pergamon - 2, 25%
[strike]Miletos - 8, 25%[/strike]
Majaria - 3

Apart from Sparta, all of my cities are putting out over 39 hammers - the power of Mining Inc.

Sooooo's military:
Cuirassier - 1
Cavalry - 1
Warriors - 3
Phalanx - 2
MG - 1
Artillery - 1
[strike]Mustket - 1[/strike]
Rifle - 1
Anti-Tank - 1
Infantry - 5
Tank - 6
Destroyer - 2
Fighter - 1

I have 23 infantry + 8 upgraded rifles and 25 tanks (before the end of the current turn). I am currently healing some tanks but I think I am now in a position to just swarm him with numbers.

[Rowain]

As you said, probably the only way to make sure you get no spoilerish information is to get no feedback.

I don't see why. You can provide feedback without suggesting new things . At least without providing info the Player has not talked about himself.

I think we all have to run the risk of getting some slight spoilers and maybe some ideas you may not have gotten yourself, rather than having no interaction in the threads. That's at least my opinion.

There is a vast difference between giving feedback and handing out ideas how to play. Onced you agree to 'slight' spoilers you stand before the difficult task to decide what is a slight spoiler and what not.