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A few turns ago, my northern axe made contact with Sian's warrior. Actually, my axe had moved onto the tundra hill forest 7 of its current position. On Sian's turn, he moved his worker onto that tile, freaked, and moved his warrior towards my axe. The worker has since withdrawn, and all my axe is doing is attempting to keep Sian distracted.
As for now. As you may have heard, SAT declared on Sian. Yay! Took the city of Toga on the first turn of the war. Multiple things to note. Obviously, the cleared jungle is where Sian settled, in an attempt to steal SAT's fish tile. Like that would ever work, Sian's 2nd ring vs SAT's 1st is a losing proposition unless you have a massive advantage, like say a holy city
SAT took the city on the first turn of the war. I have no evidence that Sian's already teched Iron working to clear the jungle stone. IW's pretty expensive this early, I'd rather go for say Maths. Therefore, SAT's attack wasn't via the land bridge, but was instead via a galley attack. The tile 336 of Sian's city can't have been visible. Especially when the attack happened before Toga's borders popped.
What else? SAT kept the city. So he thinks he can take the city of Chiton
! That scares me, I hope Sian can whip out a proper defence.
As for my attack, my first chariot is staged in position. I have 2 workers who can road and attack next turn. I have made zero hostile moves in this area (which actually makes it even more suspicious
), I haven't threatened Sian's worker. T59, Chlamys had 11h in its box. What will Sian do? If he whips on his T60, there will be 2 units, meaning I can't take it.
Therefore, if Sian doesn't whip (unlikely, considering the hot war and how desperately he needs military), then I will attack with my chariot at 65% odds. Good enough. If there are 2 units in the city, I will have to reconsider. If they are both axes, I will stage my second chariot, and hopefully attack T62. Because Sian is likely to have moved his units out of his city in an attempt to reinforce Chiton (though it could be too late). But that's okay, two chariot attacks is decent at killing 2 axes taking a city, and I'll be able to bring along 2 axes of my own as well. If Sian whips a spear, I do the same, but hope that he moves it out of the city. Unlikely. In any case, I rate my chances of getting a city kill at ~30% odds. But that's okay, SAT just crippled Sian
. And I doubt SAT's economy is holding out particularly well.
So what is this course of strategy costing me? I don't regret putting hammers into units. I need them. Tankra's spending EP on me, and he just had another power hike during T59. He's slightly ahead of me on the T59 graphs, but not enough to be scary. I've shown a spear to Tank in Lck, that thing can kill alot of chariots. Not to mention I have 4h in a spear in Lck, which can be whipped at any time.
The real cost is the worker turns. I've had a pair of workers lingering near TCR. They're not doing anything really useful beside roading, in fact, on T59 I had to move both workers onto the stone, and I roaded the stone on T60. Really inefficient, but I've been seeking to hide my workers, and there's not much else they can do. If I can't attack on T61, then they'll move 8 and road an empty plains
. If still no attack on T62, then I'll withdraw them to start working on my east coast crabs city.
Cities! All pictures taken at EoT.
Capital. Needs 11F to grow to S9. I currently make 7 surplus food. Therefore, T61, I switch from the lake to a scientist. T62, I will have built a new cottage, and I will work that to grow.
First city to get to work 2 scientists! No improved tiles for it to grow onto, unless you count the capital's tiles, or the lake. I might actually get my food bar to 19/21, switching to a settler, and whipping it so that my food bar shrinks below 19, which would effectively give me an extra turn of growth. Yeah, that's a nice micro trick, is it worth it though?
TCR. I'm considering taking a citizen off the oasis to become a scientist, as I will grow anyway. But I've decided against it, I need food if I'm going to fuel my whips. And I'm going to need to whip out some missionaries from this city to speed my Aqueduct/Hanging Gardens build. And get some culture into Lck and later cities.
City was originally called Zap70, but I've decided to save that name for later. Because I'm trying to keep it as physically accurate as possible
. In any case, I will have chopped a forest on the turn Maths comes in. That will go into a workboat, which will be hooked on T63.
Demos and graphs. The demonumbers look pretty nice, but I feel like I'm falling behind. I need more cities and I need more citizens. Great GNP, thanks to Culture of course
F2 screen. ouch, maintenance is brutal on this map. I'm making only 45 commerce right now. Sure, I have a couple of cottage growths coming up, and a gold mine unworked but still, I don't know how many cities I'll be able to afford when I do my pre-HG wave of settlers.
A few turns ago, my northern axe made contact with Sian's warrior. Actually, my axe had moved onto the tundra hill forest 7 of its current position. On Sian's turn, he moved his worker onto that tile, freaked, and moved his warrior towards my axe. The worker has since withdrawn, and all my axe is doing is attempting to keep Sian distracted.
As for now. As you may have heard, SAT declared on Sian. Yay! Took the city of Toga on the first turn of the war. Multiple things to note. Obviously, the cleared jungle is where Sian settled, in an attempt to steal SAT's fish tile. Like that would ever work, Sian's 2nd ring vs SAT's 1st is a losing proposition unless you have a massive advantage, like say a holy city

SAT took the city on the first turn of the war. I have no evidence that Sian's already teched Iron working to clear the jungle stone. IW's pretty expensive this early, I'd rather go for say Maths. Therefore, SAT's attack wasn't via the land bridge, but was instead via a galley attack. The tile 336 of Sian's city can't have been visible. Especially when the attack happened before Toga's borders popped.
What else? SAT kept the city. So he thinks he can take the city of Chiton
! That scares me, I hope Sian can whip out a proper defence.As for my attack, my first chariot is staged in position. I have 2 workers who can road and attack next turn. I have made zero hostile moves in this area (which actually makes it even more suspicious
), I haven't threatened Sian's worker. T59, Chlamys had 11h in its box. What will Sian do? If he whips on his T60, there will be 2 units, meaning I can't take it.Therefore, if Sian doesn't whip (unlikely, considering the hot war and how desperately he needs military), then I will attack with my chariot at 65% odds. Good enough. If there are 2 units in the city, I will have to reconsider. If they are both axes, I will stage my second chariot, and hopefully attack T62. Because Sian is likely to have moved his units out of his city in an attempt to reinforce Chiton (though it could be too late). But that's okay, two chariot attacks is decent at killing 2 axes taking a city, and I'll be able to bring along 2 axes of my own as well. If Sian whips a spear, I do the same, but hope that he moves it out of the city. Unlikely. In any case, I rate my chances of getting a city kill at ~30% odds. But that's okay, SAT just crippled Sian
. And I doubt SAT's economy is holding out particularly well.So what is this course of strategy costing me? I don't regret putting hammers into units. I need them. Tankra's spending EP on me, and he just had another power hike during T59. He's slightly ahead of me on the T59 graphs, but not enough to be scary. I've shown a spear to Tank in Lck, that thing can kill alot of chariots. Not to mention I have 4h in a spear in Lck, which can be whipped at any time.
The real cost is the worker turns. I've had a pair of workers lingering near TCR. They're not doing anything really useful beside roading, in fact, on T59 I had to move both workers onto the stone, and I roaded the stone on T60. Really inefficient, but I've been seeking to hide my workers, and there's not much else they can do. If I can't attack on T61, then they'll move 8 and road an empty plains
. If still no attack on T62, then I'll withdraw them to start working on my east coast crabs city.Cities! All pictures taken at EoT.
Capital. Needs 11F to grow to S9. I currently make 7 surplus food. Therefore, T61, I switch from the lake to a scientist. T62, I will have built a new cottage, and I will work that to grow.
First city to get to work 2 scientists! No improved tiles for it to grow onto, unless you count the capital's tiles, or the lake. I might actually get my food bar to 19/21, switching to a settler, and whipping it so that my food bar shrinks below 19, which would effectively give me an extra turn of growth. Yeah, that's a nice micro trick, is it worth it though?
TCR. I'm considering taking a citizen off the oasis to become a scientist, as I will grow anyway. But I've decided against it, I need food if I'm going to fuel my whips. And I'm going to need to whip out some missionaries from this city to speed my Aqueduct/Hanging Gardens build. And get some culture into Lck and later cities.
City was originally called Zap70, but I've decided to save that name for later. Because I'm trying to keep it as physically accurate as possible
. In any case, I will have chopped a forest on the turn Maths comes in. That will go into a workboat, which will be hooked on T63.Demos and graphs. The demonumbers look pretty nice, but I feel like I'm falling behind. I need more cities and I need more citizens. Great GNP, thanks to Culture of course

F2 screen. ouch, maintenance is brutal on this map. I'm making only 45 commerce right now. Sure, I have a couple of cottage growths coming up, and a gold mine unworked but still, I don't know how many cities I'll be able to afford when I do my pre-HG wave of settlers.

![[Image: T57%20Sian%20worker.jpg]](https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32015659/pbem35/T57%20Sian%20worker.jpg)
![[Image: T60%20SAT%20war.jpg]](https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32015659/pbem35/T60%20SAT%20war.jpg)
![[Image: T60%20stage%20test%201.jpg]](https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32015659/pbem35/T60%20stage%20test%201.jpg)
![[Image: T60%20MHC%20II.jpg]](https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32015659/pbem35/T60%20MHC%20II.jpg)
![[Image: T60%20CD4.jpg]](https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32015659/pbem35/T60%20CD4.jpg)
![[Image: T60%20TCR.jpg]](https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32015659/pbem35/T60%20TCR.jpg)
![[Image: T60%20LAT.jpg]](https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32015659/pbem35/T60%20LAT.jpg)
![[Image: T60%20Demos.jpg]](https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32015659/pbem35/T60%20Demos.jpg)
![[Image: T60%20food.jpg]](https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32015659/pbem35/T60%20food.jpg)
![[Image: T60%20Power.jpg]](https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32015659/pbem35/T60%20Power.jpg)
![[Image: T60%20F2.jpg]](https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32015659/pbem35/T60%20F2.jpg)
![[Image: T61%20Chariot.jpg]](https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32015659/pbem35/T61%20Chariot.jpg)
![[Image: T61%20MHC.jpg]](https://dl.dropbox.com/u/32015659/pbem35/T61%20MHC.jpg)
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