PBEM39 Setup and Tech Thread

[pindicator]

Heh. Let's re-randomize after deciding. Tricky business!

Yeah, agree with the re-randomizing. I don't want knowing the order to influence decision making. (And no wonder Seven doesn't want the snake pick; he was picking first :neenernee )

Regarding spies... how crazy would it be to just ban counter-espionage as well?

With pick selection, I think the bonuses give so many more combinations of possible leader/civ groupoings that it doesn't make picking first the big advantage it could be in other game set-ups. But the disadvantage seems to be that if you pick and others have time to react where in a snake later picks wouldn't have that type of anxiety associated with it.

So I think Seven has the right idea here. Pick both civ and leader first through last in inverse of turn order.

[scooter]

So I think Seven has the right idea here. Pick both civ and leader first through last in inverse of turn order.

That's not actually what he's saying and not what we did in 32. He's saying two rounds with the same pick order in both rounds. So say Seven gets picked to go first. We'd have two rounds of Seven -> Yuris -> Dazed -> scooter -> Pindicator with the reverse of that being the turn order. You could pick leader OR civ with your choice, but no matter what there will be 4 picks between your first and second choice. ALso means nobody gets a guaranteed combo which is a good thing, and that's why I'm fine with this pick method if that's the consensus. It did work well for PBEM32.

[SevenSpirits]

I think that's what Pindicator meant too, I could be wrong though.

[scooter]

Maybe yeah. We're really struggling right now .

[SevenSpirits]

Regarding spies... how crazy would it be to just ban counter-espionage as well?

Possibly a bit crazy. I suspect some of the missions would be a bit underpriced late game without counterespionage available.

[scooter]

I'm going to make this easy and say let's ditch the snake pick and go with Seven's method. That makes a majority in favor (Seven, Pin, myself) and Dazed said he didn't care, so we can go ahead with that and get started unless Yuris is going to be violently angry if we don't do a snake .

[pindicator]

I think that's what Pindicator meant too, I could be wrong though.

Yeah, that's what I meant. Sorry that I can't write it like I think it

[SevenSpirits]

OK, before getting our random number let's finalize the spy thing too.

Current rules for spy units are: No tech stealing, and no civic/religion swap missions.

Code:

[x] Keep it like that
[ ] Also ban counterespionage
[x] Ban all other spy missions too
[ ] Ban spies entirely
[ ] Unban tech stealing and/or religion swaps

I'm fine with either of the options I checked, and wouldn't mind too much about banning just counterespionage.

[dazedroyalty]

Code:

[x] Keep it like that
[ ] Also ban counterespionage
[x] Ban all other spy missions too
[ ] Ban spies entirely
[ ] Unban tech stealing and/or religion swaps

I agree with this.

[scooter]

I'm with Seven. Fine with either checked options - mostly prefer it's one of those two. Would slightly prefer the "banning other missions too" option, but that's a slight preference and not a strong one.