While i technically own this game my neighbor is borrowing it permanently. I l didnt care enough to ask for it back after playing it a few times. I must admit that i never even entered the industrial ages in the few games I played, but i was not enjoying the game at all. I figured whats the point in continuing bc a game is supposed to be fun, and this isnt. Now on to my arguments: I agree with Sulla, the MDI's are a huge problem and I also stopped playing PTW because of those. You can build a continous flow of those units(starting with warriors if you have the cash), and they are really cheap (basically 1/2 the shield price of a knight). Even if you are hopelessly behind in tech its OK, i've taken out size 12 cities with rifles in them with stacks of these. If these horrible units had to be included they should be alot more expensive shieldwise at least (I cant remember the upgrade cost in gold, but I def remember them being way too cheap @ 40 shields) So since I was unaware of any patches I just continued having a great deal of fun with 1.07f!
The other problem i had was briefly touched on by Sulla. Namely those new resources. Im definetly glad they didnt become luxuries, but i still have problems with them. Its just soo....cluttered I guess. For one thing I don't like bananas. If I am going to settle in a jungle I am giving up early growth for the fact that jungles are resource rich. This may not be so critical a part of the game, it is still an important choice that is taken away when banas are present. Now you can have your growth back, and where there is a banana there is clearly not going to be a source of coal or rubber (thats pretty obvios but im in full rant mode here, with noone else to tell these things to

). And the other 2 resources (tobacco and sugar if i remember right)
who needs them? I guess Sulla and the rest of you guys were right, they were clearly add-ons to get more people to buy the game. I really dont see them as usefull.
Looks like im going to have to reinstall these expansions to play the epics though, so hopefully you guys have come up with a good way to eliminate all of these problems.