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(July 25th, 2013, 10:33)Bigger Wrote: (July 23rd, 2013, 16:14)Boldly Going Nowhere Wrote: What is WPC's espionage situation? Do they have Alphabet? Would they need to have teched Alphabet in order to run a spy mission "against" us if we gifted them a spy? I'm thinking that we should groom them to be our religious civic swap insurance policy. If we have to help them tech Alphabet (could pacify them for their lack of gains in the war, perhaps) after we get to rifles, perhaps it's worth a look. Then they run the espionage slider and steal techs from us. I'd encourage them to go toward Nationhood so they can swap us back there if needed.
I have no idea if the costs involved would make any of this viable for WPC.
well wpc doesnt have code of laws either. w/o courthouses or the espionage slider, its going to be difficult for them to get the EP's to steal any tech.
Ideally we could talk them into running an espionage economy, so CoL isn't the main thing, just Alphabet. They would take forever and a day to build up courthouses.
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Courthouses are not how to run an espionage economy anyway. Jails and Nationhood are, which represent bigger economy per hammer than anything else in the game. Before those, the discounts for stealing come out fairly marginal, only useful if you can get the big -40% religion discount which WPC can't (you have to own your religion's holy city).
And the espionage slider is always available, it has no tech requirement. I don't know who thought otherwise.
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(July 25th, 2013, 12:41)T-hawk Wrote: And the espionage slider is always available, it has no tech requirement. I don't know who thought otherwise.
yeah that was a brainfart. I blame sulla's post in the turn thread.
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CFC just picked up Chemistry.
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Current power chart, per APTmod. Note that CivFr is the current rival best in power, and WPC is rival worst.
![[Image: ISDG-T165-power-chart.png]](https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10039024/ISDG-T165-power-chart.png)
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Civplayers score went up by 24 points when they logged in. That looks like a stolen tech, right?
Because they also whipped/drafted A LOT!
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Yeah, we have a message that Nationalism was stolen, and also a message that "Enemy spies appear to be extra vigilant to our espionage efforts in the near future", which I think means they've run a counterespionage mission.
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Sounds like it, though I haven't logged in. Great, decreased likelihood they'll be able to pull off more than one spy revolt!
Still, looks like 5x 1-pop whips and 3x 2-pop whips. Assuming that's what 5 points represents.
Edit: wait, if they stole nat, then those 5x 1-pop whips are probably 5 drafts.
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No, it's not drafts, because they need to revolt first. They haven't done so yet, and they can't draft during the turn they revolt.
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Oooh, that's right, I forgot they're Darius, not spiritual Aztecia. Well that's more reassuring.
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