[SPOILERS] Oxy and suttree save the day, again!

[suttree]

I removed the FP city from the last proposal - Maga wanted the flexibility to decide later where to settle her 6T cities or some such. I really didn't like that red city, but felt compelled to include it so there would be no whining about the flood plains going to waste. Also, I see removing the red city from the agreement as a response to Maga's constant delay. This whole stone thing is stupid, but unless you want to build sankore, I don't think we'll suffer. I think we can co-ordinate our Oxford build around M&L.

With every e-mail I'm so tempted to point out that India is powering up and it would be just so sweet to join them in squishing Asterix. But that would be undiplomatic, I guess.

[Oxyphenbutazone]

As *'s latest stalling indicates, I think he would be all too happy to kingmake between us and India. Seriously, 9gpt for a lux?

[suttree]

EVENTS:
*Timeline for marble city is on the map.
*Abandoned the sim. Might be fun to do a city review for t100.



DIPLO:
*KGB unilaterally delays our stone deal a turn so he can revolt to Hinduism.
*Letters to Maga/Arki
*The plot thickens:

rome talking with MM only
Алексей

wut?
eagles and condors

DMOC post some crazy theory that Asterix=Maga=GG
like one guy playing 5 accounts
Алексей

why would they talk to MM?
eagles and condors

i dont believe it
well
they all from Poland i suppose
played some games before
Алексей

oh, nice. so we signed up for a team game then?
eagles and condors

yep lol
its not a fact
just a speculation by me
but rome is strange diplo in full diplo game
Алексей

well - a team that signs up for a diplo game and does no diplo except with their irl buddies is pretty lame
eagles and condors

MAP:

CITES:

DEMOS:

[Oxyphenbutazone]

I've lost track of our negotiations with *, are we still asking for the western pig city?

[suttree]

Unfortunately, no.

1) Immediate permission for M&L to settle two cities on the line between the green dots.
2) Immediate permission for OxySut to settle the blue city
3) No further cities beyond the 5T line.
4) T180 NAP - to be kept confidential from all other teams
5) 20 turns of stone. 10T beginning the turn OxySut connects stone; OxySut connects stone as soon as possible. 10T at M&L's request, so long as M&L gives ten turns notice.

[Oxyphenbutazone]

Geez, that's ridiculously in their favor. I mean I'm all for getting any deal that includes a NAP, but I don't see why they would be stalling so much on this deal unless they had no intention of ever signing it.

Crazy idea: once we get a NAP with Orgy and they continue to stall, we resend our offer. Let them come to us begging for a deal for once.

[suttree]

We decided to prioritize an NAP, the deal is designed to achieve that end at minimum cost. After Alphabet, we need to commit one way or the other. Until then, I get to waste my time, I guess.

[Oxyphenbutazone]

Sorry if it sounded like I was doubting your diplo; its totally the right call to give them a favorable deal in return for a long NAP. However, if they continue to dance around in circles, we can, as you suggested, remind them that they are in a rather precarious geopolitical situation sandwiched between us and India and that may give us an edge in negotiations.

[Oxyphenbutazone]

Sounds great, I accept. Thank you for phrasing the agreement out so nicely .

[Oxyphenbutazone]

Took a look in game, are you sure you want the settler out of Floreal to go to the marble city? It'll take a while for that city to become profitable, it desperately needs a granary and a lighthouse, but has no first-ring forests. It would also be 12 tiles away from the capital, which is pretty killer for this map. Unless we have a pressing need for marble, I don't think settling that city is the best.

What about we settle the northern island city instead? No worker labor necessary, becomes profitable a lot sooner and is closer to the capital. I see you've already started the worker micro for the marble city, so it may make sense to continue it.

You didn't post the new micro, so you may already be doing this, but should Brumaire work the plains cot over the sheep and give the sheep to Vend?

In other news, we're almost certainly going to get code of laws and alphabet in time for our first GS to spawn.