February 19th, 2014, 19:10
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Rule Britannia!
...wait, I didn't get England? There goes my plan of hiding in the corner again
<insert long term plans here>
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February 19th, 2014, 19:43
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I... did not expect this to get off the ground so rapidly, to be honest.
On the other hand, being generally time-starved probably won't make much difference given the awkward time-shifts required to talk to people anyway
General plans:
Ally with Austria. Should be basically a safe front for the first few years, given Austria is likely to be under attack from at least two of its three main aggressors, and I want to focus on England/France (and occasional denial of Russia in the north).
Ally with France or England against the other. Not sure which yet. Killing England gets me fleet dominance, and a semi-corner position, but allows France to build up for a land push that has a much easier time getting though the Low Countries than south of the Alps. Killing France gives me a good land position, but still surrounded, especially by English fleet dominance.
Claim Scandinavia. England will get Nor in 1901, I should be in a position to bounce Russia from Swe if he's being annoying (ie. moving west anywhere else, or giving Austria trouble), and Den is mine. They're both wrong, though. Scandinavia is mine. Even if I have to offer England something to get him out of there.
Russia. I don't believe long term working together is feasible, so it's basically 'work together for small things if I'm getting an advantage out of it, and attempt subtle sniping the rest fo the time'. A Russia who wins the war in the south is coming for me next, so that needs to be prevented.
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February 19th, 2014, 20:00
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yeah, this must have set a record for organization time. But everyone was ready and wanting to get it going, so it wasn't a problem. Hope that isn't a problem for you.
February 19th, 2014, 20:28
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Diplo so far:
Rowain (Austria) offering general greetings and a reminder that we worked together somewhat last game. Definitely interested in maintaining entirely friendly contact with him for the foreseeable future, as mentioned above.
Dtay (England) came in with a "OK so let's hit France straight up". Expressed agreement in response, but I'm wanting to hear from France (especially if they happen to pass on that they've received a similar missive) before committing. Would probably prefer to work with them. I probably place too high a value on naval dominance, especially considering the fact that all supply centres are on land...
Haven't heard anything from MJW, TT or scooter yet. scooter would likely only be to ascertain if he was hitting Austria, which I highly doubt he'd inform me of in any way. MJW may be possible to convince to head west instead of east, but given east is Rowain, that may be difficult. TT I don't hold a very high opinion of his tactical prowess after the last game, so I forsee most of my diplo with him being fairly blatant "don't be an idiot and I'll continue doing my own thing rather than turning east early".
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February 19th, 2014, 20:29
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(February 19th, 2014, 20:00)BRickAstley Wrote: yeah, this must have set a record for organization time. But everyone was ready and wanting to get it going, so it wasn't a problem. Hope that isn't a problem for you. Nah, it's fine. I'll be spending more time than I should be on this, but then again I'd be doing that whatever time it started
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February 21st, 2014, 03:13
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Diplo so far (probably some rehash here):
scooter (Turkey) is too far away to have much involvement
MJW (Italy) is being generally MJW. Stated no intention of moving west (that is, against France) to me straight off the bat. Did agree to leave Tyr empty (which is good as I was going to move Mun->Ruh anyway). When called on the unprompted mention of France, he offered Ven->Pie if I gave him something suitable in return. Not taking that. Interestingly, when I passed this on to Cyneheard as a likely indication that Ven-Pie would not be forthcoming, he responded that MJW had proposed (to him) Ven->Pie, "to trick Austria or Turkey into thinking I'm attacking you".
So yeah. No idea what MJW is up to.
TT (Russia) agrees Russia v Germany is stupid early. Commencing negotiations re: Sweden. I've implied 'be sufficiently anti-Turkey and I'll let you in'. Uncertain about doing so. Will depend on what else I can do with F(Den).
Rowain (Austria) has agreed to keep Boh and Tyr empty. Common sense on both our sides. He's mentioned letting TT into Swe to help against scooter. Will see.
dtay (England) has been pushing anti-France from the start. Disinclined to fully run with this, as it does generally result in a strong English navy ready to stab whenever they like. However, making nice noises, and generally agreeing. He's not pushing to hyper-aggressive play, which is good as I'd be pushing for an established 'noncommittal' opening my side anyway. Most emails exchanged.
Cyneheard (France) is the only one to actually engage in chat, rather than emails. No real long-term planning, though. Have agreed that Bur stays empty, and setting up to bounce Bel in autumn. His proposal to bounce Bel, mine to lock down it being from Pic and Ruh. Assuming a bounce ENG in S01 I'll probably run with the Bel bounce.
Moves at the moment (unlikely to change much):
F Kie -> Den
A Ber -> Kie
A Mun -> Ruh
Sets me up for two centres (Den, Hol) with a say in two others (Swe, v Russia; Bel v France and England). Explicitly do *not* want 3 centres in 01. Fast expansion gets you mobbed.
Comments, anyone? Suggestions for things you'd like to see if I get the time? Any interest in entire conversation threads being posted (and 'legalities' surrounding that)? Diabolical plans to annex the 52% of Europe that I need?
Brick: confirming that deadline is a bit over a day and a half from now?
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February 21st, 2014, 09:55
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February 22nd, 2014, 15:42
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(February 21st, 2014, 03:13)Mattimeo Wrote: Comments, anyone? Suggestions for things you'd like to see if I get the time? Any interest in entire conversation threads being posted (and 'legalities' surrounding that)? Diabolical plans to annex the 52% of Europe that I need?
I like it so far. If you were to add anything, it would be diagrams/pictures of your moves (and maybe guesses of your foes, too). But that'll matter a lot more later than it does now, it's not particularly hard to keep track of three units  .
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February 23rd, 2014, 00:15
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Well. What the hell is happening in the south-east?
Looks like IA is trying a Key Lepanto (results in a convoy to Syr/Smy F02, and an Italian Tri->Ser F01), while Turkey was hoping for a juggernaut (RT blatantly teamed up form the start, very hard to do anything about) and got stabbed.
Scooter straight up asked me to bounce Swe as soon as the resolutions rolled. At the moment I'm inclined to follow through. Will want to chat to Rowain (any maybe TT, see what concessions I can get from him for *not* bouncing) before I lock it in, though.
Almost as much fun in the relevant theatre, too. No bounce in ENG (actually, that's sort of an argument against bouncing Swe... we've had so much success so far with no-one bouncing anything, we should continue that, right?  ). France is not in a good position here. Cyneheard is guaranteed a build with Mar->Spa, but one of Pie and MAO *needs* to ->Bre to stop that being lost. Of course, that could mean there's a figure on Bre, precluding a build of F Bre, which is really required to salvage the position at the moment.
So, the main question is: will dtay ENG->Bre, or ENG->Bel? Hoping to nail down a chat with him, though he mentioned in a quick email the possibility of me getting three builds, so the possibility of him not going ->Bel is there at least.
Diplo wise:
aforementioned quick chat with scooter re: him getting stabbed, and bounding SWE
quick email from dtay, celebrating ENG, wanting to organise a chat and potentially nail down further working together
chat with Cyneheard covering what can be done about ENG. Mainly covering what's mentioned above. From what I can gather, there's a decent chance of him bounding Bre with MAO and Pic - only gets one build, but it's guaranteed F Bre.
Results:
I might get three builds. Will need further info about Bel for that, though. Again, not sure if I *want* three builds, but if Russia is held to 0 (bounce Swe, and I'm not sure *what* is going with Rum, but Bul can be held with Con S)
Conversely, England getting the win of ENG, and France being in a bad position, makes me *more* interested in an alliance with France. Slightly harder to take England in the short term (maybe too long, given Turkey is probably dead in 03?) but I'll be in a stronger position than France once we pull it off, whereas if I stab France now, England will have completely established naval supremacy by the time I get the chance to do anything about it.
and I'm really bad at the whole 'actually picking an alliance' thing, rather than the 'try to keep playing both sides and end up getting ganked for it' I've got going...
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February 24th, 2014, 21:48
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(February 21st, 2014, 03:13)Mattimeo Wrote: Explicitly do *not* want 3 centres in 01. Fast expansion gets you mobbed. Fail.
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