February 2nd, 2015, 13:44
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(February 2nd, 2015, 13:26)Ichabod Wrote: (February 2nd, 2015, 11:57)Jabbz Wrote: I'm a little worried that neither of them are scum, since there is so much about both cases that is vague. Maybe it just feels that way because the cases yesterday seemed to be more clearly analyzed. I mean, when did the first votes on these guys come into play? Somewhere after the middle of this game day?
I made a case for dtay early on the day. In fact, I think little changed on the second half of the day from the first half, just that people piled on the cases that were presented. I know about time real life time constraints and all, but coming out 10 minutes from the deadline to drop this doesn't help much.
Ah, I guess it flew under my radar.
February 2nd, 2015, 13:53
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So the biggest question I have out of all of this is: Did dtay use his 1shot as vig to take out Matt last night, or do we have a sk/msv still out there?
February 2nd, 2015, 13:54
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February 2nd, 2015, 13:58
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(February 2nd, 2015, 13:30)Ichabod Wrote: Look good as villagers or mafia?
As villagers
February 2nd, 2015, 14:00
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(February 2nd, 2015, 13:40)Jabbz Wrote: (February 2nd, 2015, 12:17)zakalwe Wrote: Jabbz, why not stay on TT when Molach voted for him? "I had already decided to switch" isn't much of a reason.
Because it still wouldn't have accomplished anything. The vote would have been below Bob's. TBH I didn't expect the last minute changes, nor, had I, would it have made a difference. My vote on TT instead of dtay wouldn't have mattered.
Further, lets be honest Zak, since you've been on my nuts since day one. Had I stayed on TT, you would then be saying it was scummy that I didn't join in and make an active decision, and instead was trying to fly under the radar. You are operating under one hell of a case of confirmation bias.
Seems like most of the votes for dtay were justified with "better him than Bob". So if you had gone with TT instead of dtay, it could possibly have made TT hang instead. You started the day making a huge case against TT and you have not updated yourself on anything that happened after that. So I thought it was strange that you felt so little attachment to that case now. Yes, if you had stayed on TT with a single dead vote, I might have called you scummy for it. But after Molach's vote, TT looked like an equally viable option for saving Bob. They were tied for votes.
If you know what I mean.
February 2nd, 2015, 14:01
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(February 2nd, 2015, 13:12)Jowy Wrote: You've got good friends. Saved you from the agony of waiting for the books to come out. The show will be completed 10 years before the books 
If we're lucky enough the books ever get finished. Martin isn't getting any younger.
(February 2nd, 2015, 13:18)Rowain Wrote: The day looked very dull to me. Nothing was really moving and the cases stayed the same. Part was that all 3 TT, dtay and Bob did very little to participate.
One possibility was Bob being scum and the others scummies have already tried to get an alternate waggon rolling. So I decided to shake the tree a bit and see what drops out. The switch from Bob to dtay was done to see reactions- to see who would seize the chance to save Bob.
Appeared to be Gazglum and Azarius. Now Gaz has still a strong 'not-sycophant' bonus with me on count of his play so far especially his pushing of Lewwyn on D1 so I'm now even more suspicious of Azarius than before.
In case Bob turns out to be scum me thinks Azarius is a perfect follow-up lynch. Works vice-versa too (if Azarius is scum than Bob is a good follow-up lynch too).
Should Bob turn out to be a villager then Azarius + Gaz look good.
In case dtay had turned out to be sycophant both Azarius and Gazglum would have gotten good No-sycophant-cred which would have been a nice Bonus too.
Or, you know, I just logged on and tried to make the best decision in a situation where I didn't like either of my choices. Feel free to think think your tree shaking had anything to do with it Inspector Clouseau. I won't deny that my vote was more about saving bob than lynching dtay. I would have rather lynched elsewhere and felt dtay was the least bad choice.
February 2nd, 2015, 14:01
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...I think it's safe to assume he didn't use it on Mattimeo.
Lewwyn, perhaps, though I would've thought he'd claim it.
We have a one-shot day vigilante, a vigilante and two potential SK's potentially around. I think it's safe to assume he didn't.
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February 2nd, 2015, 14:03
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(February 2nd, 2015, 13:40)Jabbz Wrote: The difference there though, was that we had a huge game changing info dump from Mattimeo. This was more, somewhere around hour 30 people just couldn't find someone better so we went on these two.
Welcome to a good portion of our lynches. Yesterday was a welcome outlier.
(February 2nd, 2015, 13:53)Jabbz Wrote: So the biggest question I have out of all of this is: Did dtay use his 1shot as vig to take out Matt last night, or do we have a sk/msv still out there?
Why on earth would you think Matt would be the vig kill? Nevermind that scum would want him dead as a cop, but the other kill WAS scum.
February 2nd, 2015, 14:05
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(February 2nd, 2015, 14:00)zakalwe Wrote: Seems like most of the votes for dtay were justified with "better him than Bob". So if you had gone with TT instead of dtay, it could possibly have made TT hang instead. You started the day making a huge case against TT and you have not updated yourself on anything that happened after that. So I thought it was strange that you felt so little attachment to that case now. Yes, if you had stayed on TT with a single dead vote, I might have called you scummy for it. But after Molach's vote, TT looked like an equally viable option for saving Bob. They were tied for votes.
This, big time. Before you made that post, I was about to vote Twinkletoes to try and save Bob. Your vote there killed that wagon, really.
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February 2nd, 2015, 14:17
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I think we have an SK and SK killed Lewwyn. I think a vig would have claimed the kill (it wasn't dtay, he'd most definetely have claimed it), when I asked. I think that the silence that followed my prompt for the vig to reveal himself was more than enough confirmation that we have a SK.
Regarding Mafia, I still think bob is a villager. Even so, I think he should claim next day, very early, otherwise the day will be all about him without that information. It's the most villagery thing to do, in my opinion, even if you have a powerful role.
Also, about suspicions, considering what I've read from the last part of the day, I got a bad feel about Molach, Fenn and Jabbz. But I'll have to reread the thread a bit, with the new knowledge we have. One thing is for sure, I created a pretty good place for scum to park their votes on day 2.
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