PB57 Organizing Thread

[Gavagai]

Thanks for the starting screenshots Noble! Regarding play order:

Quick note on play order based on past experience with Civ 6 PBEM ... Pindicator gets home from work right as I am getting ready for bed. With Pindicator > Cornflakes order we regularly had 8+ hour gap and almost never double turns. That being said, the overall turn order proposed is likely the best for locating everyone into consistent 1T/day windows. All this to say let Gavagai pick whether long-term he would like to play in the gap before me, or after.

Gavagai, any preference for playing before or after me?

No pressure to start the snake pick. I would like at least tomorrow to think through the start (considering that it is like 30-50 turns of a normal game all being played on T0 ).

No preference. I work in academia which means (in my case, at least) I need to be on the workplace for a few hours per week. Beyond that, I am at home or in the library and able to play. Unless, of course, something unusual happens but in that case there is no way to tell when I would be able to play.
This brings me to a second point. Can anyone explain to me again why we are doing a sequential pitboss? The only advantage of a sequential pitboss is the technically enforced double-move rule. But double-move problems could easily be avoided by observing don't be a dick rule and, to my knowledge, none of the players here ever had problems with it despite the fact that we all have a considerable record. On the other hand, even a slight change in routine for any od us - something which would definitely happen to me because I plan to do some travelling in the next few months - would put the entire game on a lengthy pause. So - why are we doing it to ourselves?

[Old Harry]

Sequential means production happens when you click the red button, not when the turn rolls, so there's no benefit to being second in turn order in a war. Also it's a bit of a change to see how we like it.

The plan is to switch on t30 though, so we should be able to have a good turn pace up to that point.

[Gavagai]

Sequential means production happens when you click the red button, not when the turn rolls, so there's no benefit to being second in turn order in a war. Also it's a bit of a change to see how we like it.

Does not it just mean that there is a benefit to being first? Because of promotions? Or am I missing something?

[Old Harry]

Think of it as a PBEM - so promotions, pillaging and production all happen inside your turn, then it's everyone else, then back to you.

If you're earlier in turn order you might win what would have been a coinflip on wonders and you're effectively a turn more prepared then the opposition in warfare. I was wondering if it was worth trying to offset that advantage with the snake pick somehow?

[Charriu]

Sequential means production happens when you click the red button, not when the turn rolls, so there's no benefit to being second in turn order in a war. Also it's a bit of a change to see how we like it.

The plan is to switch on t30 though, so we should be able to have a good turn pace up to that point.

Also keep in mind that we should be able to switch back to simultaneous if required.

[The Black Sword]

I've been assuming we go 5432112345 pick order, but we could go 5432154321. 

Also worth noting that going later in the turn order does get you a few extra known tech boni.

[Old Harry]

I've been assuming we go 5432112345 pick order, but we could go 5432154321. 

Also worth noting that going later in the turn order does get you a few extra known tech boni.

I was thinking about 1234554321 as there's a benefit to picking with less gap, but I guess there are a couple of Civs that are likely to get picked first. 5432154321 would be fine by me.

[The Black Sword]

Personally I think 1st and 10th pick would be better than 5th and 6th. In a larger game someone might steal part of your synergy pair but it seems unlikely with only 5 players.

[The Black Sword]

I'm most in favor of whatever gets the game running.  I guess we should have included snake pick order in the settings vote. So can everyone vote for their favourite of 

5432154321
1234554321
5432112345
something else.

My vote is 5432154321.

[Cornflakes]

I’m fine with anything for snakepick order, looks like vote for 5432154321 will give us critical mass so I’ll vote for that.

And turn order is confirmed:

1. Pindicator [5pm - 9pm Pacific / 0100 - 0500 UTC] although I can most likely fit it in throughout the work day
2. Cornflakes [6-9 am Eastern US / 1100 - 1400 UTC]
3. Gavagai 05:00 - 21:00 GMT
4. The Black Sword 1700-2300 GMT (I'm pretty flexible about playing before that these days)
5. Old Harry [1900-2300 UTC]

I’m ready to get this started.