[SPOILERS] Oxy and suttree save the day, again!

[suttree]

Now that the game is up, will try to reconnect with the teams later today (map trade with Arki etc. etc.).

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[WilliamLP]

From where I stand, it seems like if you land all those wonders with those demos you guys are going to be in a decent position in this game.

[Oxyphenbutazone]

Do you think our foreign policy should change towards our western neighbors?

[suttree]

RE: B4ndit - he wants to open borders, so we can do that.
I delayed tech (MC t124, Alpha t125) so that we can see what our tech rate looks like during the GA and plan from there. esp. eta on nationalism.

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[suttree]

Opened borders with B4ndit

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[suttree]

I hope Maga is still around to see B4ndit 5-whip her precious bureau-cap for the GLH. Shame on the non-fin civs for ignoring it.

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[Oxyphenbutazone]

I don't know, GLH is pretty weak on this map. I don't think its worth whipping your bureaucracy capital for it. I don't see Bandit/CW as being powerful enough to be a major rival, so I'm fine with keeping OB with them.

[suttree]

I don't know, GLH is pretty weak on this map. I don't think its worth whipping your bureaucracy capital for it. I don't see Bandit/CW as being powerful enough to be a major rival, so I'm fine with keeping OB with them.

We'll be in mercantilism in 12 turns, so it's moot anyway. To be clear, I wasn't praising B4ndit for his decision to whip the GLH, I was shaking my head at Yossadorn/Eggheads. At 200h it doesn't take more than 3 coastal cities (presuming available OB) for the GLH to be better than any other commerce investment.

[Oxyphenbutazone]

Idk, those 200h are probably the difference between surviving an AGG Rome attack and not. As annoying as it is for DMOC to routinely bitch about it, we did get lucky with our neighbors. I think CH had the strongest starting position in terms of land quality and neighbors.

[Oxyphenbutazone]

Techs T125(Not in order right now)

SutOxy- Ancient- all except archery, Classical- all except Drama, Construction, HBR and Compass. Medieval- Philosophy

Eggheads- Techs down on us: Aesthetics, Literature, Music, Philosophy, Metal Casting, Iron Working, Alphabet. Techs up on us: Construction.

Youfu- Techs down on us: Aesthetics, Literature, Music, Philosophy, Calendar, Monarchy, Iron Working, Meditation. Techs up on us: None

Bowsling- Techs down on us: Meditation, Polytheism, Monotheism, Priesthood, Monarchy, Code of Law, Sailing, Alphabet, Aesthetics, Literature, Music, Philosophy. Techs up on us: None

Arki- Techs down on us: Metal Casting, Aesthetics, Literature, Music, Philosophy, Code of Laws, Alphabet. Techs up on us: Construction, Theology, Paper

Yossadron- Techs down on us: Meditation, Monarchy, Aesthetics, Literature, Music, Philosophy, Calendar, Iron Working, Alphabet, Metal Casting. Techs up on us: None

Whiteye- Techs down on us: Meditation, Polytheism, Monotheism, Monotheism, Priesthood, Monarchy, Metal Casting, Aesthetics, Literature, Music, Philosophy, Alphabet. Techs up on us: Construction.

Catbandit- Techs down on us: Polytheism, Monotheism, Monarchy, Aesthetics, Literature, Music, Philosophy, Iron Working. Techs up on us: Civil Service

CH- Techs down on us: Meditation, Aesthetics, Literature, Music, Philosophy, Sailing, Currency, Iron Working, Metal Casting, Code of Law. Techs up on us: Archery.

GG- Haven't met, but I doubt they have much in the classical era beyond construction

I'll write up a more detailed/lurker friendly t125 rankings once the game is running again, but considering we're about to launch a MoM GA, build a bunch of wonders, including Taj, and bulb 8k beakers, I think it kinda speaks for itself. As hubristic as this sounds, my major concern right now is that everyone will want to leave the beach before we finish building our sandcastle.