[spoilers] Dragon Slayers and Warrior Knights, Oh my!

[Ichabod]

I don't value food that highly on FfH; it's not like in BTS, where it's the probably the best way to evaluate your position. And just think what would be your Crop Yield if you reconfigure your Capital to max food instead of max production.

Besides, in a full diplo game, leading demos don't mean so much as in a no-diplo game.

By the way, I hope you aren't finding the map too imbalanced.

[WarriorKnight]

I don't value food that highly on FfH; it's not like in BTS, where it's the probably the best way to evaluate your position. And just think what would be your Crop Yield if you reconfigure your Capital to max food instead of max production.

Besides, in a full diplo game, leading demos don't mean so much as in a no-diplo game.

I guess that's true. With slavery nerfed, food doesn't give production, so isn't the one right stat.

By the way, I hope you aren't finding the map too imbalanced.

Haven't explored enough to judge fairly yet. I do have a few concerns, but I'm sure everyone has their own little nitpick.

[WarriorKnight]

Sian offered Deer in exchange for Gems. Needless to say I turned that down.

[Ranamar]

Deer for gems? Don't you already have... oh right, no hunting yet. But still, you've got a source of deer.

That fourth city looks nice, and I agree on cottages... it'd be a PITA to get anything there irrigated, and wheat+fish (eventually...) will feed a lot of plains cottages or specialists or whatever.
Also, developed cottages have some nice civics, if anyone ever gets that far.

[WarriorKnight]

1st turn in 8 days means I'm sort of obliged to post something. But nothing really happened.

Will do T50 though.

[WarriorKnight]

Sian's 2nd city got to 3rd ring borders before I could finish a monument. Now I've lost the rice and a farm until I get enough culture to take them back.

[Ranamar]

Sian's 2nd city got to 3rd ring borders before I could finish a monument. Now I've lost the rice and a farm until I get enough culture to take them back.

Ouch.

What are you thinking of your other neighbors? It sounds like this one is annoying.

[WarriorKnight]

What are you thinking of your other neighbors? It sounds like this one is annoying.

Got that one right. Sian is currently sitting at the bottom of almost all the demogs, and is really quiet in diplo. He does sends responses for everything I write, but I don't generally write much stuff either so there's a bit of a problem. I do think his 2nd city is a bit aggressive distance wise, not to mention it's stealing tiles from my city. As an elf he's probably going to delay mining, hence why we might have been to make a deal with my gems (and, tbh, I probably should've considered the possibility of accepting it so he delays mining further). Currently looking like the best target, but war won't profitable to me for some time at least (need BW and probably Warfare at least, HBR and City States as well probably). On the bright side, I doubt I'll need to race anyone, he has minimal forests in his empire and Sian will only get weaker with time.

TBS seems to know what he's doing on the economic side. He's got 3 cities, used his WS, and is looking good at the demogs. It doesn't look like he's expanded in my direction at all, which is a plus (makes up for the earlier DOW, as long as he doesn't settlement spam me...). No deals aside from contact sharing and a mana gift to me, but the potential's there. Since he has his 3 cities, it seems silly to attack me for land, and I'm not doing great enough on the demogs to be a threat right now, so I don't see why he should be hostile to me for now.

HK is looking good in demogs too. I have the most deals with him, with a gold for cotton trade and a dye for city site NAP until t80ish I think. Still the most dangerous out of everyone I've met so far. I don't really trust him long term, and I've been forceful enough in diplo that I doubt he trusts me either. I hope me signing a NAP with him wasn't a mistake, but since I got a happy out of it I don't think it was. Just need to make sure not to sign another one without a good reason, nor get attacked. Just have to keep an eye on him I guess

Haven't met Yell0w or jalepeno yet, but it looks like both are doing well in score, although that is meaningless. Since T50 is next turn, I guess I'll go over my cities too, even though I did an overview less then 5t ago.

[WarriorKnight]

OK, so either I have no clue how to play EitB or no clue how to judge myself in EitB. But I'll get to that in a minute.

Firstly, Settler for 4th city finally completed in Orion. Sadly, Sian also got his 4th city this turn as well, so I'm still the slowest out of the 3 people I know to a 4th city (excluding TBS, for obvious reasons). However that's still probably a result of me focusing more on workers, and I shouldn't be overly concerned about stuff like that in a diplo game.

Anyway, demogs:



Looking sadder then usual since Sian stole my rice. However the monument did finish this turn so it shouldn't be too long before I reclaim it. Otherwise still great in MFG, although now that I've finished my 4th settler I'm probably going to switch back to growth mode in my cap since I'm getting cotton next turn. I've already finished a wheat farm for my new city, and with a wb in Mentar almost done and hopefully stealing rice back that food deficit shouldn't remain for long.

And finally the WTF screen:



Huh? Firstly, I don't think I've seen a in-game overview screenshot like this in any of my RB games before, although maybe that's due to being last in the turn order or me just having a terrible memory. Secondly, how on Erebus do I have the most techs researched, when I've consistently been 5th in GNP?!? (although... I was 1st in GNP for some time before switching to MFG mode) True, I've researched AH and Fishing already over expensive religious techs that HK, TBS and probably Sian have gone for, and I did get Edu last turn. I also have nothing that even remotely consists of an event fund, although I probably should. I know GNP doesn't consist solely of beakers, so perhaps everyone else just has a lot of culture or something else that I'm missing...

Aside from my ranking, everyone else sounds like they're in the right rank. Still, it's a bit of a shock to me that I have the most techs researched and a high MFG to boot, while being terrible in almost every other category. This must infinitely amusing to watch, I currently have no idea how to rank myself compared to everyone else in this game. Guess I'll just keep going and see how things turn out, cause I don't know what else to do.

Anyway, as I mentioned I finished Edu last turn. I'm heading to Festivals first before Warfare/Cartography since I could really use markets and festivals is cheap enough. Then back to the plan.

Also I still haven't touched my adventurer yet. He's sitting in my capital yet gaining xp, and is currently on ~35 or so. Aside from using him to build FotT, I don't really know what to do with him just yet. I could turn him into a scout and capture animals, but I'd rather play it safe and wait until Hunters since even heroic scouts are weak enough to be vulnerable. Or I could turn him into an axe/chariot or something for a possible Sian war. I don't think an arcane unit is the right choice for this guy, it'll take too long before he can be used. I still have all the options available to me though.

Finally, my first ADA switch is coming up. There's no way I'll make it to Military Strat before T71 sadly, but really that observation wasn't really based on any in-game testing, just a possible theory I had. Right now, I have zero clue what to switch into. Perhaps a economic trait like IND or ORG? Then I can switch into CHA or RAI on t145, even though I'll probably be involved in fighting before then.

[Ranamar]

I dunno, man... congrats on having most techs?

How are your cities doing, aside from the part where you've got four of them? I think I'm basically wondering about the F1 summary here.

You seem to think you built a fair number of workers already... I'm not sure whether you think you have enough, but that seems like an argument against IND unless you have your eye on more wonders than just Form of the Titan. I'm just used to thinking of forges as being in "that tech I never research". I suppose you could drop the Library in your capital and go sage-crazy while mostly ignoring Adventurers, too... or drop it somewhere else and hope you build up a stock of adventurer points in your capital for when you cast Ardor. ORG could help you consolidate a conquest as well as having an economic effect otherwise. I really wish there was a better way to look up traits in this game. I never have them memorized, and always end up scrambling when the adaptive window comes up. Cha is kind of an economic trait, too, if you decide you need a higher happy cap by the time T71 rolls around...