WW #41. New Horizons.

[Rowain]

Rowain still hasn't posted except to discuss the many wonders of being himself. Unimpressed. Even after being asked to hunt more, Rowain hasn't engaged. Rowain is in the naughty logbooks.

You are right to complain but for one I had an unexpected busy day which kept me away from PC for several hours but I also find it harder to motivate myself to hunt in my usual way. Thirdly there is not that much to go through.

There is the Serdoa - zak fight and Serdoas posts concerning me.

There is Lewwyn 4*7-theory that should give him some town-cred. There is Gazglum looking rather towny but nothing much else.

I do agree with Brick concerning novice 's "Hey I should get some townpoints too"-post.

[zakalwe]

@zak: Why didn't you throw out a vote in your first post, and why did you reciprocate?

To be honest, these do not seem like particularly burning questions, Bacchus. But here goes: I was trying out my new avatar in that first post. My next order of business would probably have been to look at the player list and vote for somebody, but I guess I got distracted or something. In any case, by the time I was ready to post again, I was already under attack by Serdoa. And at that point I still hadn't looked at the player list, because I was surprised to discover that he was in the game. By reciprocate you mean why I voted for Serdoa? Because he was attacking me with weak arguments. I thought it was worthy of a revenge vote.

[Rowain]

@Gazglum

If you are not impressed by my scumhunting what is your opinion of novice play so far?

[AdrienIer]

@Gazglum :not enough town feels. I'll see if I have more things to say tomorrow. Most likely I'll find someone scummier on a reread

[Gazglum]

@Gazglum

If you are not impressed by my scumhunting what is your opinion of novice play so far?

I think Novice has seemed engaged with the setup, but I concede that on reread his content is mostly meta. The biggest question mark for me with Novice is that when tlaking to Bacchus he described Zak's posts as wormy:

Why didn't you, like Serdoa, find Zakalwe's wormy answers inherently scummy?

But if this is his opinion, Novice didn't do anything to help Serdoa pressure Zak, or even ask for clarification.

Novice, what is your opinion on Zak?

Rowain, do you suspect Serdoa as scum fattening you up for the mislynch buffet?

[zakalwe]

You are really reminding me why I shouldn't have signed up for this, after all.

zak, this is an underhanded and unfair comment.

Underhanded? I'm just telling you how I feel. To elaborate, I don't enjoy arguing with you. When you're on the attack, it takes a ton of effort to defend, because you just keep hammering the same points over and over. And if I try to summarize your walls of text into something more manageable, and give a brief refutation, I can be sure that you'll be all over me for that, too. That's quite frustrating when I'm just trying to play the game without pouring hours of effort into it.

For what it's worth, I didn't say the above to insult you or hurt your feelings.

[zakalwe]

I agree with AdrienIer that Novice isn't giving enough town vibes.

I don't know if you have a comment on that, Bacchus? Why didn't you, like Serdoa, find Zakalwe's wormy answers inherently scummy?

"Wormy answers"? Where did that come from?

[Rowain]

Rowain, do you suspect Serdoa as scum fattening you up for the mislynch buffet?

Fattening me up - yes. Is he scum? Harder to say. Usual Serdoas game makes sense to me but his attacks here not so much.

[zakalwe]

I don't think we should bet the whole game on the 4*7=28 thing.

It's not about betting the whole game. A mass claim could be quite instructive no matter how the powers are distributed. And it would allow us to coordinate. For example, a sensor could investigate the lynch, while somebody else uses spyware to watch him for roleblockers and killers.

Meanwhile, the observation that 7*4 = 2*14 remains quite compelling. So if it did turn out that 6 or more powers occur exactly twice, while the rest occur either 3 or 4 times, that would be very telling.

[novice]

I thought both Serdoa and Zak (after (over)correcting for bias) came out of their tete-a-tete looking slightly scummier than coming into it, and I didn't particularly feel like picking a side. And history has taught me that it's usually beneficial to town if I keep a low profile in arguments involving Zak.

At any rate, I don't find Zak's posts wormy, that was me taking a stab at what Bacchus might find scummy about Zak, to prod him into giving an elaborate response to my queries.