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darrelljs Wrote:So is this accurate?
As far as I know, though Maniac wants to talk to us tomorrow in chat.
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As predicted.
Quote:Greetings DJ Civ,
I am unfortunately the bearer of bad news. It seems this diplomatic shake down is becoming ever more concrete.
Personally, i was hoping for a little more fluidity in the shift and with trading techs but it seems that won't be happening. Not for now anyway.
As such, i have simply no choice but to refuse your offer of Aesthetics+x for Currency. The key reason is that Aesthetics will likely be researched by one of our strongest allies and we would therefore get it free soon enough.
I hope you understand my position.
Yours,
Kyan
Also:
Quote:Greetings DJ Civ,
It was agreed between myself and Rego that we would sign open borders. I'm unsure of whether that offer still stands.
Both of us have an aggresive unit at each others borders. You're well aware of our purpose in trying to meet the Aztecs and Ottomans in the land formerly occupied by Sumeria.
I also agreed yesterday that i would not share screenshots or information of your land.
I would prefer to tie such an agreement to a NAP negotiable in length. Would this interest you?
Kyan
Draft reply:
Quote:That is indeed bad news. Your note implies that you were strong armed into not trading Currency to us, is this the case? Does it also mean we should discount the potential of trading techs while PAT stands? To be honest, I don't see how we can sign a NAP which ties are hands in the event you are forced to attack one of our allies as part of some PAT plot. Would you be interested in a NAP that has an auto-end clause if either of us declares war on a third part?
PARTY OFF!
DJ Civ
India
Okay, maybe I'm not the best person to draft a reply right now.
Darrell
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Sent this to Rome:
Quote:Rome,
We are pleased at the cessation of hostilities between two civilizations we prefer to ally with. We accept your NAP offer and find the border arrangement fair.
PARTY ON!
DJ Civ
India
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We don't want that open-ended "NAP ends if PAT DOWs our friend" clause. That allows them to DOW Portugal or Rome or whoever and then have instant ability to attack us.
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Draft to CUDDLE...we absolutely have to get the ball rolling on this one. Please take the time to read and comment on it.
Quote:We are:
*athlete4life10 + Jowy + Kalin + Nakor - Joao of Inca
*Sandover + scooter + Square Leg - Kublai Khan of Rome
*Dantski + Mukha - Willem of Portugal
*meatbalz + dazedroyalty + Ilios - Mehmed of HRE
*Sockboy + ad hoc + WarriorKnight + Pegasus - Zara of Ottomans
*Ruff_Hi - Napoleon of Aztec
*SleepingMoogle + Bobchillingsworth + ManiaMuse - Hannibal of Byzantium
*darrelljs + regoarrarr + sunrise089 + sooooo - Bismarck of India
We should add Byz once Portugal confirms they are IN. I think we need to play really tight on this one...we've got 8 civs to their 6 but they have a tech lead and most of the good techers in the game. Thanks Ottomans for those numbers, once we get them from everyone we can figure out how to best distribute research (priority has to be Currency). Several of us need to work on getting a great person to bulb if we want to keep up, Portugal put a great plan together on that, and once they've got it buttoned down we can combine the research and bulbing plans to prevent the gap from widening catastrophically.
We nominate we put sunrise089 in charge of coming up with a plan of attack, and give him decision making over the troops once everyone is on board with it. We realize this is a lot to ask for a hastily formed counter alliance, and its likely some of you were just thinking of this thing as a tech sharing arrangement. Unfortunately right now our only edge is production. Its inevitable short term we fall further behind in tech, which makes that less useful. We need to identify a key target and concentrate our efforts on taking it out. Candidates are Egypt (remove shrine income) and Carthage (their best techer). If we want to avoid a PB2 type debacle we need to coordinate MUCH better, hence the need to have a single person in charge. Its our only chance to beat these guys. The reason for sunrise089 isn't that he is on our team, its that he has by far the most MP experience in our alliance, and his speciality IS military. We expect this to be a contoversial proposal, and no team is obliged to sign on, but we're hoping at least some teams are willing to take this next step to improve our collective chances in this game.
As a final point, we plan on gifting our Great Prophet to Ruff for the Buddhist Shrine, and he plans on Missionary spamming to everyone. Getting this income will be a great boost to our tech efforts, as he can fund hopefully one and eventually many of our best beaker generators.
PARTY ON!
DJ Civ
India
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I went ahead and played the current turn, sorry Soooo if I messed up any worker moves. Settler moved down to plant next turn, 2 workers will finish the silver mine at Exploit's old cap next turn, and our units are covering the barb axe threat and the Whosit axe threat.
Is it OK to sign OB with Whosit?
Also, one worker is unmoved, since I didn't see any obvious task and I didn't want to move him out of position.
Finally, our chariot guarding our GP has to survive an unpromoted barb warrior next turn. That's a pretty high odds battle, but cross your fingers.
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Draft sent. Have we whipped Forges yet?
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We need to reply to Babylon. I suggest we accept OB and sign a NAP. Do you want to handle this rego?
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darrelljs Wrote:We need to reply to Babylon. I suggest we accept OB and sign a NAP. Do you want to handle this rego?
Darrell
I am in meetings all day so I don't knwo that I'll be able to any time soon
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