[PB81 Mjmd] Heave Away

[Mjmd]

T150

Phantom Ships settled this turn. I have a TBD name still, but this city will be better than the filler sheep and it got settled on turn reporting.





Well TBS just has to decide which extra land he wants to wrap this up. I think he used both GS to bulb astro so didn't notice, but he finished chemistry this turn. Will it be my islands or that very juicy looking Nauf astro mini continent. Sidebar, I'm sure Nauf has shown, but this is exactly what I was envisioning way back post 1. I don't think it will be a mainland invasion. If he wanted that I think he would be going for rifles, the navy focus makes more sense. A lot easier to make progress. I am probably bias, but I would choose the Nauf mini continent. Its nearer to TBSs mainland. On the other hand he produced 1 galleon near me and there is another in queue behind the frigate, but maybe they need to sail way east.......

So ya I probably am just going full bore on my GA and run the increased risk of a 2nd great spy. I'm quite far from being even in naval tech, so just getting drafting of my own maybe? I don't think it was wrong to get the econ techs for the record. My main chance is to get them online. Even with his GA with the obsoleting of colossus and stopping wealth builds (I assume I can only see 1 city) I'm only 200gnp behind. Which is really good for out of GA. Don't ask about production though.

[Mjmd]

TBS got statue, hope he used GE on. His ships are headed west........

Which why wouldn't you if Nauf is off TAKING cities on the other continent, instead of at any point prior to TBS having naval tech hurting him like he did me. I can't even with Nauf anymore man. Send me iron for iron and then go off and take a city from someone who doesn't matter and that you have NO chance of keeping (unless Xist is ok with it I guess). Torpedo 2nd place for no reason. If everyone else has conceded I'm ok wtih that.

[superdeath]

TBS got statue, hope he used GE on. His ships are headed west........

Which why wouldn't you if Nauf is off TAKING cities on the other continent, instead of at any point prior to TBS having naval tech hurting him like he did me. I can't even with Nauf anymore man. Send me iron for iron and then go off and take a city from someone who doesn't matter and that you have NO chance of keeping (unless Xist is ok with it I guess). Torpedo 2nd place for no reason. If everyone else has conceded I'm ok wtih that.

[Mjmd]

Speaking of things I don't understand. I got this today.

Hi,
it's a few days since we had our ingame meeting, but I wanted to ask, did you find me with a caravel ?
Kind regards
Xist10

No. I assumed you found me with a caravel?

[Mjmd]

T155

TBS is indeed coming at me down in my southern islands. Although there are also some cannons being loaded east.

I have to admit to not going all out on defense. I was 1 turn from finishing moai....... I was hoping he would delay at least another turn if not another 2. Or you know I was just zoning out having fun building stuff (although many longbows and cats are going to front and I should be in nationalism in 2 turns).

[Mjmd]

T156

Ya its that time.



Official concession time!

Nauf lost 3 of his island cities last turn. Turns out when your army is out invading someone you can't keep cities off of, it isn't at home defending. I'm about to lose my 1st, but there isn't much reason he can't clean up all the southern island cities (I'm thinking of not growing 1 so its auto razed).

But ya Nauf, how well did torpedoing 2nd place work out? How much better would I have been if I hadn't done pointless whips, had a moai city this ENTIRE TIME, and hadn't had to pay him gold. I'm not sure, but I wish I could have found out. That is my biggest regret this game is that it essentially hasn't been a game because of Nauf.

I am finally even with his GNP on demo screen (I was 1 short pre whipping). Which means I am ahead in actual beaker output as he has a lot of culture in there, but ya all those cottages means production is much lower. Now drafting could have helped offset as I have more cities and a higher happy cap. HOWEVER, the kick in the balls is I got the 14% 2nd spy this turn so I don't even have a GA to make it a better fight. Starving my national epic city and working a spy for a bit I can get out another great person in 6 turns.

[Mjmd]

Hi I'm Nauf. I'm auditioning for the lower skill continent in the future. I know tanking the whole game for a city that was worthless to me is already a strong performance, BUT WAIT THERE IS MORE!!!!



Instead of attacking on a vector where I recently finished a road and TBS stack in no way can get to me in 1 turn and can at best wipe up just the units that took out the city I will instead go a very slow 1 move way through the enemy territory. Did I mention my enemy has cannons? Why yes I am an idiot. Oh I also made sure the enemy army was where my ally was going to attack this turn. I AM GENIUS!!!! Did my ally try desperately to warn me to attack T158 and not T157 like I suggested. Did he try suggesting where? I was too stupid to understand. I will now get mad at him for not invading like he promised as his army would get shredded first before mine will. Did he have a fairly free shot at a city that he has wanted to destroy all game. SURE. But why would I be smart.

I love you Nauf, but I can't even with this game anymore. Its probably for the best . If we razed two cities for very little effort Xist might not concede soon. I mean he may not anyways, but this should hasten things.

[klops]

hmm, I mean... I get that you are frustrated about this game but this seems a bit too harsh.
ok, he could have noticed a new road but ingame communications can be funny and there is also a stack with cannons next to "fool".

[Mjmd]

He built the road and the only reason to build said road is to invade along that route. That stack was like 2 cannon, 2 axe, 2 knights, and 1 worker? It wasn't his main in any case. I am assuming he has vision like I do, but there isn't any reason he shouldn't. After responding T157 was fine (I did with assumption that the route he had just roaded was the route and then scouted, which was my bad, I sent TWO messages telling him T158 and then where. Now AI diplo being what it is, if he messed up the where I can understand that more. But not listening to the T158 part was devastating because again it drew TBSs army to within range of my attack line. If he had done nothing we would have been better off. I can raze and resettle and not be subject to immediate counterattack (although I suspect I lose the new city, but better than the army). But ya we could have razed two cities pretty effortlessly. Wouldn't have mattered mind, but still better.

Speaking of my attack routes  T159.



TBSs army is 1 tile away from being able to hit me IF I move in. Now mind you Nauf is probably going to move inbetween his stack and mine. IE IF IF IF I trust Nauf to move onto the flat land I can MAYBE kill the city. TBS can wipe Nauf stack and still probably have some units that can get pile into the city. I really don't have that big of a stack (something about not drafting due to 14% spy grumble grumble), but point being a lot of my attacking units are axes and I couldn't count number of hitters vs how many units I thought TBS could pile in, but my gestimate was it was close. Mind you if Nauf DOESN'T step on that tile my army is dead.

If I don't take peace I lose this city for sure and I probably lose Tough Old Town which TBS skipped past down south. Plus nets ect. Mind you Grimsby is a double fish city with my 6th university and Tough Old Town is close to finishing moai.



So do I possible sacrifice my army by trusting to Nauf and mind you even if he does what I hope we MAYBE kill 1 city (albeit one I have wanted to kill) and I lose 2 more for sure, OR do I betray Nauf who ruined the whole game, who attacked me and never even gave my city back that was worthless to him, keep my 6th university city, work on oxford not have to whip going into my GA, finish moai, have 10 turns to build up forces to retake my own cities, and hope TBS gets bogged down in Nauf. Will any of this matter. 100% not, but if choice is between sticking my neck out and trusting to Nauf and vs going into builder mode while awaiting Xist concession...... Its not really that hard of a choice.

[Mjmd]

T163

I don't know why this game is still going on. TBS has managed to raze two Xist cities and the only good I saw in Naufs invasion of other continent was a possible faster Xist rise. Nauf has only NOW started whipping hard when he is already very dead. As soon as I made peace (and maybe before) he  should have been whipping hard. Once I made peace it was time for dry whips. TBS is conquering some embarrassingly large cities.

Anyways I righted a historic wrong this turn and took back my city. Also to prevent TBS from taking.



But ya I was hoping for some good Nauf resistance so I could raze the peninsula city end of peace, but alas.