WW 19 Game Thread - Mobster Mayhem - GAME OVER

[uberfish]

on a slightly related thread

@Zakalwe: Why am I town just because I attacked bigger on day 1, and you ignore my actual voting record which has been crap?

[Selrahc]

A ) your expecting the clock to be town .

In fact I am not. I covered both the case of the cloak being town, and the case of the cloak not being town. If they go for Serdoa and aren't called out, then we learn that the Cloak is not in the hands of town. That is valuable information, and could e.g. mean that the Item Seer or Lockpick can find them and finger them as a suspect.

B) now they know that and they won't go for him.

In which case they would *probably* be going for an uncleared villager. Something that is a good thing.
There is an extreme negative outcome. The scum hitting Day 1 Ouija, which would take out both the cleared villager and give us no way to know who they scanned. But in probability, if we scare them off from hitting a confirmed villager then that is a good thing.

[Ryan]

I don't agree because I think the rewards are much better if they claim



@uberfish what ? Are m questions illegal and not to be asked or you would like them not to claim to make it harder to question you ? That related thread comment quite amusing .

[Ryan]

I don't agree because I think the rewards are much better if they claim



@uberfish what ? Are m questions illegal and not to be asked or you would like them not to claim to make it harder to question you ? That related thread comment quite amusing .

I also prefer going for hard confirmed seer and Vigi proof over so many assumptions which again did nothing for two days. And depend on so many factors almost as if your preparing randomness of the situation .

[Ryan]

I don't agree because I think the rewards are much better if they claim



@uberfish what ? Are m questions illegal and not to be asked or you would like them not to claim to make it harder to question you ? That related thread comment quite amusing .

I also prefer going for hard confirmed seer and Vigi proof over so many assumptions which again did nothing for two days. And depend on so many factors almost as if your prefering randomness of the situation .

[zakalwe]

on a slightly related thread

@Zakalwe: Why am I town just because I attacked bigger on day 1, and you ignore my actual voting record which has been crap?

Everybody has a crap voting record. Why are you calling attention to that? The only one with a scum kill under his belt is the vig.

I think your accusations against Bigger sounded pretty genuine. In my experience there's rarely much distancing on day 1 - scum are too anxious to get off to a good start. Day 2 is traditionally the big distancing day. So I think those attacks count a little in your favor.

[zakalwe]

Zak I love how you aren't trying to disprove his claims . You are attacking his charachter with I think your scum . Your showing a lot of scum tells the way your posting . Using other people's votes to answer questions and actually waiting for a post to answer with and ignoring them until you can . Responding with "I like your claims better " to pindicator is a ) trying to get friendly with pindicator so he agrees with you and b) trying to disprove lew c) dodging questions left and right with posts that I believe don't make sense and don't contribute . " yours posts make me laugh , the way your playing ..." Stop dodging is lew to hard to answer or you can't make up enough lies to respond to him fast enough ? Are his arguments to good that you had to ignore them and attack him instead of his words ? Scum having a hard time ?

Ryan, I don't mean to ignore you, but rants like this are both hard to read and hard to defend against. If there are specific claims you think I should try to disprove, or questions that I have dodged, please say so, and I will try to address it.

Otherwise, all of that just boils down to "I think you're scum", and there's no good way to defend against that other than saying "no I'm not". So it's not a very useful attack. If you're innocent, all you can really achieve with an attack like that is to antagonize me if I'm innocent, or undermine your own credibility if I'm scum.

[waterbat]

welcome back Ryan.

@lewwyn - im trying to be resolute with my azza suspicions - why are you undermining that? you would have sealed the deal with a "CAHOOTS" instead of a "How you like me". just looking a little though --- on D1, zak included me and Azza in his post "if we are going to policy lynch someone, i prefer Azza or waterbat". *IF* zak is scum searching for easy targets, I believe he would have jumped on and innocent Azza after the lockpick claim and tasunke's murder. The way i read it, if zak is scum, adds to the likelihood azza is a snitch-mate.

@lewwyn: would you trade your life for zak's right now?

[uberfish]

Selrahc: your reasoning about not claiming is totally correct, but what about you actually do some scum hunting

[Lewwyn]

@lewwyn: would you trade your life for zak's right now?

Are you saying you gave the gascan to Zak?