[SPOILER] PBEM21, "Zero to Hero" (Kuro, Pericles' Ottomania)

[spacemanmf]

Just to be clear, there's normally two things going on.

Firstly, you get the population-related score boost for each two points of population. So in this game it looks to be 7 points (you can work out based on maximum population points on the mouseover of your score - I can dig out how if you like).

However, it might actually be, say, 7.1 points, so every 10 population-related score boosts, you get one that is 8 points to catch up with the rounding.

[novice]

Score increases for every pop point. Power/soldiers increases by 1k for every 2 pop points.

[Kuro]

I think the fractional might be 6 this game, because I know I've seen pop-score increases of 6 from earlier...

It'd be cool if you could dig out how to work the pop numbers from total pop, though. ^_^ But only if you feel like it.

I have the save and should be playing it shortly.

[Kuro]

Alright, turn in, and again...already getting a bit over my head, only 40-ish turns in. I sure hope that falling behind in this patchwork C&D won't cost me...



Ellimoogle went up 7 points again. But no capitals grew, pop didn't go up for a city...there's two options:

1. Tech
2. Ellimoogle got out a second city that I missed.

Tech would be odd, since it's only been 5T from Polytheism...could be Hunting?

Yeah, not too sure on this one.

Another oddity...



I'll also grab the demo screen, which is required for my discussion of this.



Okay, so, we can infer some things here, which makes it confusion:

Jkioan can't of gotten Stonehenge from GNP. 8 from Stonehenge + 2 from Monuments + 5 from Buddhism holy city + 1 from Buddhism(I'll show what I mean here later) + 27 base = 43 GNP alone, which is more than the top GNP.

One person has not founded a city, either Jkioan or Ellimoogle: But another point shortly will prove it was Ellimoogle who hasn't.

Therefor, almost certainly the one who got Stonehenge is NobleLewwyn. This is confirmed and shows an odd glitch with the Top 5 cities screen: NobleLewwyn's second city(I believe it to be anyway, due to founding date + reasons seen after this) has moved into the Top 5. It has to be NobleLewwyn's, because otherwise my second city has the same pop as other city's, but with Creative's culture, which would make it "better" in the Top 5(For now). However, of course, Stonehenge there would make that city better.

But, unlike in SP, I can't actually see Stonehenge was built there(In SP, you can see if a city built a wonder, even before you meet a civ). I've already detailed why it's not Jkioan and I doubt it's Ellimoogle(He still has his Hindu holy city, which with -1 Monument and -1 from spread would be 41...but only before actual commerce, which would push them over). Strange.

Ellimoogle is most likely working two Grassland hill mines, the Fish and the Corn, consistant with both production and food numbers. How there's 29 GNP of anyone is a mystery.

Oh, and as for why I'm giving buddhism one more culture and assigning Jkioan the city...



Ellimoogle and Jkioan have the same capitals with the same religion, so if neither of their religions had spread, it should be the same. However, Jkioan's Buddhism has 17%!

It, therefor, must of free spread to his second city! Lucky dog.

Anyway, on to the turn, since you can see my field on the first image...

Both of my Workers moved to the river next to Erodan and will complete a cottage in 2T. This perfectly coiencides with Erodan's growth, which will allow it to work 2T while waiting for the Galley to be whipped(One for Sailing, one for the production into Galley to avoid bare whip penalty). It can also regrow on it from Size 3 and on or while growing for a whip(Like it probably will for the Settler. I might trip whip the Settler instead of double, though...).

I also realize this turn: Feferi shouldn't whip the Work Boat. It grows in 2T and the Work Boat finishes in 3, so I get to work the Gold instead of the Fish AND end up at Size 3 faster. Technically speaking, it delays the Fish 1T...but the Fish are meant to grow me to Size 3, which I'm doing anyway, and whipping down to Size 2 means no Gold for me. So I don't whip Feferi and will let it finish the Work Boat naturally.

It will probably start on a Warrior next, but not complete it: I'll whip the Warrior for 15 hammer overflow into a Settler I'm thinking while I chop out Settlers.

Either way, turn is over.

[spacemanmf]

Score increases for every pop point. Power/soldiers increases by 1k for every 2 pop points.

Oops, see, I'm confusing myself. Apologies! Too lazy to read the early PBEM13 thread...

[spacemanmf]

Right, time to make up for my earlier error-ridden comments...

From novice in PBEM13:

"On this map, a pop point is worth 5000/1617 = 3.09 score points, which means that every 11th pop will yield 4 and not 3 score points. (Score from population is calculated and rounded separately from other score components.)

Basically the game calculates, based on the map terrain, how many pop points the map can sustain. In this case 1617. The reasoning is then that on any map, you should get 5000 score for reaching your full population potential.

You have similar arrangements for land points, on this map there are 1630 land tiles, so each tile gives 2000/1630 = 1.23 score points. So reaching your full potential in land area is valued at 2000 score points."

[Kuro]

So I'm thinking it'd be 5000/Pop amount...

In-game says 773. 5000/773...

6.4

So every three pop points would equal 7, I think. Seems consistant: I got 7 when I grew to 3/4 and such...

So just a pop increase, I guess.

I would say this could also prove he had a second city by now...but demos + pop disproves that already.

[Kuro]

How did I fall so far behind in views?

OH WELL. I will just need to make it up in quality.

[Kuro]

I just gave NobleLewwyn a little "Good job " in an unrelated chat, hehe.

And look at that, Lewwyn then goes and up and posts.

Not that it'd be hard to tell from score.

[Kuro]

So, turn in.

Jkioan got a score increase of 6, consistant with a pop point or tech, but the pop did not go up this turn. Therefor, a tech, seems consistant enough.

IDK which one yet, though...BW or Sailing makes the most sense, but those would give Soldiers, which were not given!

I'll mull over this a bit...later. I actually kind of have to go right now!

Fortunately, I literally have nothing to do. So that's quick.