Gavagai's thread

[Gavagai]

Finally got to log into the game. This is what I saw:



I had a mace and an archer defending the city. He attacked with a CR3 gren from the Galleon, killed a mace. After that he tried to attack with an immortal which got killed by an archer. Then, I think, he moved four knights in a position to attack next turn.
Also, he did this:



There is a lightly wounded pinch gren in Brasil and he also has another pinch gren moving towards Tir na nog.
Well, what can I do? First and foremost I need to upgrade this archer to a gren. He will be able to kill one of the knights next turn which may turn out to be important. But - I don't have enough cash to upgrade. Am I completely fucked? Actually, no.
I decided to check what are my chances in operation Lacrimosa:



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Uh oh. Sorry, Furj.







Well, objectively you have just witnesses one of the most importnat events in this game but subjectively it seemed trivial. I only knew that I now have money to upgrade an archer into a gren in Aztlan which I proceeded to do. Now I had an option to keep this city: all I had to do is to ferry a musket from Tir na Nog. However, it will make possible for Zanth to just walk inside Tir na nog. So, I had to choose between two cities.
In the end I decided to sacrifice Aztlan. Tir na Nog has a library which will be destroyed and a Gren completing next turn; on the other hand, Aztlan connects my silks and losing them will be a serious happiness hit for my empire. However, I decided that I can live with this. Also, I offered white peace to Furj, I think he accepts it and my problems with happiness will be resolved.
Next turn I will drop two Cuirs and a knight near Aztlan and also will position four grens and a Cuirs for an amphibious attack. Turn after next I should take Aztlan back. After that I will reevaluate. On one hand, the longer I delay the war with Bacchus, the more is the danger that he would beat me to destroyers. On the other hand - my victorious fleet is coming back from Netherlands. In a few turns I can drop something like 20 units on a tile SE of Zenda. And Zenda is a good city to keep, you know.

[Gavagai]

Zanth is playing his turn and it looks like that he is attacking for real! He also cared to bring enough units to kill a mini-stack of mine in the south.
Really, what strikes me mostly in this madness is that it looks like he carefully planned this attack for a long time. But - did he ever ask himself a question why exactly he needs more land? I mean, he is already at the first place in land and pop by far but is the last in GNP. What can be less expected from a civ in such position than an aggressive war in which it can't hope to really win? Yep, that is exactly why I kept my west undefended. Really, who could see this coming?
Also, we are currently in a four-way turn split. Hum - Furungy - me - Zanth. I really hope Furungy would take peace.

[Commodore]

Maybe he figured he couldn't beat you to Combustion?

[Gavagai]

Maybe he figured he couldn't beat you to Combustion?

He can't beat anyone to Combustion, that's the point. On the other hand, his empire is mostly land-based, fleet is less important for him than for any other player, I think.

[Bobchillingworth]

I think it might be time for you to accept that you see the value of aggression at various points in a game from a different perspective than other players, and move on.

[Gavagai]

I think it might be time for you to accept that you see the value of aggression at various points in a game from a different perspective than other players, and move on.

Don't even tell me that I will have to talk about this again... Anyway, I know pretty well what kind of a player Zanth is, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't attack just for the sake of vengeance especially in this position. To attack now he should be seriously thinking that this helps him to win the game.

[Gavagai]

This game...

(Check Bachus thread, his update should be interesting.)

[Gavagai]

OK, I will need to wait for Hum and then Furungy to play their turns, so it will take a while but Bacchus, really?



I pinned units in Abydos... and highlighted my expeditionary force, just returning from Netherlands. Worst place ever to keep your frigates. The city will surely burn this turn.

And a big overview shot of the new war theatre:



Surely, a guy with absolutely pathetic navy is the one who started a war here.

[Gavagai]

A thing of note is that he didn't try to attack me here and didn't even upgrade his Knights into Cavalry. A clear sign that in contrast to Zanth he didn't really prepare to this war.

[Gavagai]

OK, an even more insane thing happened. We both were in game, Bacchus brought up diplo screen and asked for peace! I asked him to add 300 gold (couldn't do it myself as were both were in diplo screen) and he did! We are at peace now, I'm 300 gold richer and have a frigate and 2 empty Galleons sank. Also, our trade routes got nuked.
I hope, Bacchus is pleased with the results of our war. Really, what the fuck was this?