[SPOILERS] Cornflakes and Q Eat 'Em for Breakfast!

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A 1/0/3 tile is worse then a 1/4/0 tile building wealth/research.
Its better to swap wealth->research then start working unlighthoused coast over workshops, especially when modifiers are the same.

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Remember that the last pop (the one that starved) will not contribute to the GPP pool.

I have checked, and it appears you are right.

Also no scientists in the GM pool!

[Cornflakes]

A 1/0/3 tile is worse then a 1/4/0 tile building wealth/research.
Its better to swap wealth->research then start working unlighthoused coast over workshops, especially when modifiers are the same.

You are correct on this

In my defense, I swapped to all the coast when we had the colossus still before Astro rendered it obsolete. Still no excuse though

[Cornflakes]

We pop the GA next turn, so we need to discuss civics one last time. OrgRel for sure. Caste for sure. I need to check for happiness throughout the empire and see what we've got. Nationhood takes 2 happiness from all our core cities (those with Ikhanadas). Rep would affect the capital, Mars/Sheep, and AT's cities the most because of their high MP. I know that we have extra happy cushion everywhere, I just don't know how much.

Rep is worth about 85bpt. Bureaucracy is worth about more than 50c in GA, or 100bpt (-50gpt).

You mentioned Free Speech. That may be ok, I just haven't counted towns. We have 15 towns at the capital, so worth 30c/60bpt there. Mars/Vocano/Postos have maybe 15 between them => 30c but only modified by 25% for 37bpt (EDIT: actually Volcano has University so this slightly more). Still this is about equal to Bureau for only ~20gpt cost, and we may have a few stray towns in AT's land to gain extra benefit. I think Free Speech is superior since bureau only adds about 5hpt to the capital.




I offered two trades to Krill, and to my surprise he accepted both (1) Iron for Horse (Bigger cancel our Horse deal), and (2) Ivory for Whale. Krill has a source of iron and workers that are constantly improving it over the last 10-turns, but for some reason it never has a mine. I think Bigger is spy-pillaging it Horse is useless to Krill without Iron for Knights, and Iron at least lets him build Cannon (oh, and Frigates too, I guess).

I plan to invade Krill Amphibiously with our soon-to-be glorious 7-move galleon fleet and Frigates that can bombard the defenses and a dozen 3-promo Cavalry that can take Amphibious promo. By attacking Amphibiously I avoid the Collateral effects from his Cannon. After cranking out a few Frigates I'll swap Porcupine over to Galleon production.

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Yeah, I think free speech out weighs Beuro currently, with a similar commerce benefit and less costs. Rep and FS are worthwhile, provided they won't cost us too much in working pop.
So yeah, check the amount of pop we'll lose, and if its anywhere near the beaker gain (so for rep which gets us maybe 90b, if we lose 20 pop id say it wasn't worthwhile, and NH maybe 10 pop).

[Cornflakes]

Forgot about this with the forum being down when I played ...




Your suspicion of Commodore was correct. I decided to send our sentry knight down to check since there is only one tile that could hit us that we didn't already have vision on.

5 knights + Morale Grenadier. we now have 8 units in Postos (old junk, but enough) and our stack of knights is in range to get inside in 1-turn. I'll just keep popping over with the sentry knight to watch that tile.

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Reason 2 why FS would be awesome

[Cornflakes]

Yes, FS it is. Beakers being equal, Bureau being more expensive, hammers being negligible, Culture being handy. I'd like to put Sistine here too. Maybe Hermitage.

After popping the GA we're going to have to dial back the research slider to not get SM next turn. This is ok because we'll either not dig into our gold reserve of go slightly positive. If we go positive Bigger might then sniff out that we're confident and dial up wealth/research of his own, but honestly at that point it doesn't really matter. We won't speed up our ETA by finishing SM next turn because there won't be much overflow.

[Cornflakes]

*Breathes huge sigh of relief*




Rolled an Engineer I don't care what he is so long as he's not another Artist




Demographics Before GA




Demographics After GA, but before making any tile adjustments.




Final Demographics for T217 before logging out (EDIT: well, not quite final ... but approximately final). Keep in mind that at least 550 of our 600 MFG are Wealth builds which get added to GNP, so our *real* GNP is roughly 1250 w/o Wealth. Beaker output when from 818 > 944 when I fired the GA, and from 944 > 1127 with the civics swap ... +183 which is very close to my estimate (I estimated Rep at 85bpt and Bureau/FS both to be about 100bpt).

Our minimum required beaker output is 1250bpt next turn and the following 2 turns, so we'll need start about 150bpt as Research next turn to be safe. I'm going to be doubly safe and next turn swap all our Wealth > Research builds. That will concentrate all our Research builds into one turn (the turn we max overflow from SM) and allow us to adjust the Research in the following 2 turns accordingly.

This was T217, and SM has been microed to within 5 beakers of completion. Next turn we complete SM with max overflow, including max Research builds. We should then be able to safely tech Communism in 2-turns without Research builds (only wealth to sustain 100%) but we'll have enough breathing room WRT gold to throw in a few more Research builds if needed.

I went all-in on this though, even going so far as to swap Porcupine to Wealth! I think we'll need the 50gpt from there over the next 2 turns minimum until we see how we are for research in the final 2 turns to Communism. After all our hard work I'm not taking any chances

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Wrong pic at the top
Oh and ignore my question, somehow I forgot the GA starts this turn
This looks possible