[SPOILERS] TT tries yet again to not be terrible

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that said I'm used to NTT games

[Twinkletoes89]

Its more for logical trade bait than the wonders. Without bait, we get left out of trades

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fyi, I made one small change. A trick I learned from novice. I turned on "avoid growth" in futurama fry. it was set to grow and complete its granary this turn - which would have put its food bar empty at size 3. it will complete the granary but build up food and not grow. BE SURE to turn avoid growth off next turn, then it will apply all the food but at 50% (since the granary is complete) and should grow to size 4 MUCH quicker.

you could use another worker in success kid after the library (no harm delaying that settler).

also wouldnt mind seeing the capital stealing the mines from success kid to rush the great lighthouse (hopefully we are able to build it, but the extra fail gold won't be bad either) - success kid can run 2 scientists to replace the 2 from the capital. (which will have the nice side benefit of increasing our chances of getting a great engineer instead of a great scientist).

overall you're doing great with the scientists. and I do think you'll be able to trade aesthetics around, so good call on that. maybe we can land The great library to make up for not getting MOM.

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oh I also moved your woodsman axe inside the borders - it saved you 1gpt "supply cost" which is much needed . next turn if you move the eastern spear inside our borders you should be able to move the axe back out to stand guard against barbs and still keep supply at 0.

[Twinkletoes89]

I'm not sure whether we want to have a pop at the Great Lighthouse right now tbh. I think the scientists are a better bet. We need to get teching so that we can get more tech whereas the failgold will rapidly disappear due to our costs of researching or due to us having to buy tech, which will cost a bomb.

We need Currency & Code of Laws from trades really at least - that will be a huge win for us and then we focus on building up. We will make a try to get Construction too because it looks like that has been traded around a bit and I don't want to be the easy target for Jowy's BallistaPhants

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well, ok. Don't assume we're 100% going to lose the TGL. its a heavy land map so people won't emphasize it. and look how long the oracle took to fall . TGL would be like an extra currency tech for us currently .

also, I think hammers into fail gold is about equal to rep scientists.... maybe? not sure really, but the extra gold if we do lose it will help us tech faster anyway. plus I think the chance to get a GE for our first GP instead of scientist should be calculated too .

I don't think its a big thing though, probably pretty close either way.

[Twinkletoes89]

Right, a few little updates.

I have traded Monotheism to 2metraninja for Monarchy (I know we don't really need it but I wanted to be able to get Feudalism as Jowy is going to pick on someone and I don't want it to be us.

Also just traded Polytheism (plus 29g) to Cornflakes for Code of Laws. Getting some courthouses would help us with our expenses when I can fit them in

Aesthetics is researched next turn and unless Commodore picked it up this turn, noone has it and we can get some good trade bait hopefully. Looking for at least Currency and Construction. This could get us back in the mix - already getting settlers back in the queue to get catching up on the expansion.

We will have a Great Person out of Success Kid in 2 turns time. I reckon it will be about a 50-50 shot at getting a Scientist or an Engineer. What do you think we should do with either of them?

We could keep the scientists going after that in the capital and we would get a Great Scientist not long after as it is one turn behind atm.

MoM still hasn't gone but we still need to secure Calendar. If not, we could look at the Parthenon to help our specialists or Statue of Zeus to scare people off attacking us, bulb something (though would prob be Metal Casting which isn't great with the Colossus already gone). Or we keep it back and hope for GLib.

If its a scientist, I'm not sure what they would bulb. I think compass or maybe Philosophy. Philo could be a useful bulb for trade bait as well as for Pacifism. Then we could consider a spell in Caste & Pacifism at some point later for some fast GP.

Shall see what happens

[Twinkletoes89]

Looks like we have Currency at last! Offered Mono + Aesthetics for it and looking at Civstats the score increase mid-turn suggests it was accepted.

Lets see if Jowy is prepared to part with Construction too...

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nice! I say go ahead and research calender next (since we have it partially researched it and jowy probably won't part with it) and see if we can't use the great engineer to build mom?

[Twinkletoes89]

If we get the GA.

And might the GLib be better than MoM if we are going to mainly use specialists?