I was surprised too to see that there is no Warrior in your city. It was worth it anyway but if you do not get the boost, we have to rethink me settling on the city between Angiers and Open Government.
Can you try to lure the Akkad Galley out?
Do all of your BB attack force have a level up?
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The SW is actually the same continent, so unlikely another player and no era score for the continent either. They must have met somewhere else the last missing player. Finding another player in the next 5 turns is crucial for me to get a Golden Age, which I would use to convert my
income in some Builders most likely.
The other Galley will scout the southern coast towards TAD and then try to return the way Norway came to our coast. Maybe it will go help TADs East front if necessary.
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Llubljana is militarizing currently while Woden is trying to catch up in infrastructure by churning out Settler (he produced Settler#4 this turn).
Comparison time:
Kaiser
=> 12* 0.5 pop + 2 palace + 4 campus (5* 0,5 + 2 Palace + 4 Campus + 2 CS) *0,15 = 15,575
=> 2* 2 Monument + 12* 0.3 pop + 1 palace + (5* 0,3 + 2 Palace + 2 Monument) *0,15 = 9,275
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Both are at 5 completed civics and a surprisingly high
and
considering they have been running on 2 cities so far without any Campus or Theatre Districts build. I think it very likely that they deviated to foreign trade for +100% navy production, so this means both have 2 Governor titles available which would result on Pingala +
promotion.
Let us have a closer look.
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Llubljana has one 3 pop city with a Cothon and likely a monument (13 empire), his capital also has a cothon and likely a monument so a minimum of 10 empire score which puts it at 4 population.
He can work 2 mercury (science) at Linear A and has marble (culture) and turtles (science) connected at his cap
Assuming he has Pingala in his cap (the bigger city) then this puts him at:
Llubljana
=> 7* 0.5 pop + 2 palace + 3 yields (4* 0,5 + 2 Palace + 1 turtle) *(0,15 + 0,1 celebration)= 9,75 < 15.8 shown
score (14,75 if he would have
promotion)
=> 2* 2 Monument + 7* 0.3 pop + 1 palace + 4 Pingala + 1 marble (4* 0,3 + 1 Palace + 2 Monument + 4 Pingala + 1 marble) *(0,15 + 0,1 celebration) = 14,4 < 18.4 shown
score
These are huge discrepancies, even condsidering they did not take Foreign Trade (very unlikely considering his miltary score) but defensive Tactics or finished their GP (does not fit empire score) for a 3rd governor promotion, the numbers are off by a significant margin.
My best guess:
- 6,05
discrepancy could come from 2 envoys with CS and another
yield or Pingala
and 1 envoy
yield
- 4
discrepancy could come from 1 envoy and another
yield or 3 pasture with GotOS
I believe he has 2 scientific envoys and 3 pastures with GotOS to get where he is at, which is a very strong
and
position.
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Obviously build a settler last turn to drop down to 2 pop. Frigg has 2 pop and a HS as well as very likely a Monument (10 empire). His capital has very likely a monument (6 empire) which means it currently has 3 pop after finishing a Settler 5 turns ago.
That is a very low population estimate but he currently has only half my empire score with 19. His Settlers are on the way though and will change that soon. I do not think he can celebrate outside of a huge amenity deal from Llubljana as he has only pearly connected.
Woden
=> 5* 0.5 pop + 2 palace + (3* 0,5 + 2 Palace) *0,15 = 5,025 < 10,8
=> 2* 2 Monument + 5* 0.3 pop + 1 palace + 3 pingala (3* 0,3 + 2 Palace + 2 Monument + 3 Pingala) *0,15 = 10,685 < 17
These are still huge discrepancies, I am even more certain that he has no GP build with his low empire score, so Pingala
promotion is very unlikely.
My best guess:
- 5,055
discrepancy could come from 2 envoys with CS and another
yield
- 6,315
discrepancy could come from 3 envoys with CS
These guys have met all CIVs and it is not that unlikely that they were lucky enough to get a couple of easy quests to get this amount of envoys. I have been in a similar situation in PBEM 18 (without the scouting, more lucky even), but this is a huge factor as it seems very likely that they are preparing an attack at Oligarchy which they will be the first to reach in estimated 12~14 turns (I do not know how far they are on defensive tactics yet)
We or their other neighbors will be facing strength 39 + likely GA 4 movement Galleys, and it looks like it will be a mass invasion. I think it more likely to be us, as TAD is their only real thread on getting their GAs
![[Image: LWZlNZL.jpg]](https://i.imgur.com/LWZlNZL.jpg)
Ending with some better sandbox news, the harvest was enough to get to 4 pop, the new campus is a 9 turn build when we slot out of Urban Planning in favor of colonization.
International News:
- Llubljana/Phoenicia -
- Roland/China 7 empire (3rd city), 2 era
- MPTF/Australia -
- TAD 9 empire (BB 5, pop 2, Monument and Granary 1 each)
- Kaiser HS 1 empire (pop TB), tech#8
- CMF/Russia 2 era
- Suboptimal/Indonesia -
- Woden/Vikings civic#5, tech#9, Settler#4
Can you try to lure the Akkad Galley out?
Do all of your BB attack force have a level up?
![[Image: JsujnOk.jpg]](https://i.imgur.com/JsujnOk.jpg)
The SW is actually the same continent, so unlikely another player and no era score for the continent either. They must have met somewhere else the last missing player. Finding another player in the next 5 turns is crucial for me to get a Golden Age, which I would use to convert my
The other Galley will scout the southern coast towards TAD and then try to return the way Norway came to our coast. Maybe it will go help TADs East front if necessary.
![[Image: MdqoO8O.jpg]](https://i.imgur.com/MdqoO8O.jpg)
Llubljana is militarizing currently while Woden is trying to catch up in infrastructure by churning out Settler (he produced Settler#4 this turn).
Comparison time:
Kaiser
![[Image: MdqoO8O.jpg]](https://i.imgur.com/MdqoO8O.jpg)
Both are at 5 completed civics and a surprisingly high
Let us have a closer look.
![[Image: im2Rf7i.jpg]](https://i.imgur.com/im2Rf7i.jpg)
Llubljana has one 3 pop city with a Cothon and likely a monument (13 empire), his capital also has a cothon and likely a monument so a minimum of 10 empire score which puts it at 4 population.
He can work 2 mercury (science) at Linear A and has marble (culture) and turtles (science) connected at his cap
Assuming he has Pingala in his cap (the bigger city) then this puts him at:
Llubljana
These are huge discrepancies, even condsidering they did not take Foreign Trade (very unlikely considering his miltary score) but defensive Tactics or finished their GP (does not fit empire score) for a 3rd governor promotion, the numbers are off by a significant margin.
My best guess:
- 6,05
- 4
I believe he has 2 scientific envoys and 3 pastures with GotOS to get where he is at, which is a very strong
![[Image: 36uwFNN.jpg]](https://i.imgur.com/36uwFNN.jpg)
Obviously build a settler last turn to drop down to 2 pop. Frigg has 2 pop and a HS as well as very likely a Monument (10 empire). His capital has very likely a monument (6 empire) which means it currently has 3 pop after finishing a Settler 5 turns ago.
That is a very low population estimate but he currently has only half my empire score with 19. His Settlers are on the way though and will change that soon. I do not think he can celebrate outside of a huge amenity deal from Llubljana as he has only pearly connected.
Woden
These are still huge discrepancies, I am even more certain that he has no GP build with his low empire score, so Pingala
My best guess:
- 5,055
- 6,315
These guys have met all CIVs and it is not that unlikely that they were lucky enough to get a couple of easy quests to get this amount of envoys. I have been in a similar situation in PBEM 18 (without the scouting, more lucky even), but this is a huge factor as it seems very likely that they are preparing an attack at Oligarchy which they will be the first to reach in estimated 12~14 turns (I do not know how far they are on defensive tactics yet)
We or their other neighbors will be facing strength 39 + likely GA 4 movement Galleys, and it looks like it will be a mass invasion. I think it more likely to be us, as TAD is their only real thread on getting their GAs
![[Image: LWZlNZL.jpg]](https://i.imgur.com/LWZlNZL.jpg)
Ending with some better sandbox news, the harvest was enough to get to 4 pop, the new campus is a 9 turn build when we slot out of Urban Planning in favor of colonization.
International News:
- Llubljana/Phoenicia -
- Roland/China 7 empire (3rd city), 2 era
- MPTF/Australia -
- TAD 9 empire (BB 5, pop 2, Monument and Granary 1 each)
- Kaiser HS 1 empire (pop TB), tech#8
- CMF/Russia 2 era
- Suboptimal/Indonesia -
- Woden/Vikings civic#5, tech#9, Settler#4


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