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[spoilers] Pindicator and Regoarrarr - Bismark of Ethiopia

Azza took our Chemistry deal. Coupled with saving gold, we're at 2426g, so we do have enough to run the 5t to get us close to Sci Meth (-442gpt). Consequently I did turn science up to max this turn.

Toonces finished the Hermitage -> Theater, and I micro'd the culture so we get our 60% border pop at EOT. The tile in question is up to 52/46 Aztec, and the other mine tile is 49/49

No techs this turn. For some reason we don't see Scooter's research anymore, even though the Espionage screen says we have enough EP to do so. I can't imagine that he doesn't have a tech selected so I'm not sure what's going on there. Krill continues to spend a ton of EP on us, and he's probably going to be done with Azza within the next turn or two.
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Quick Krill economy check - he's up 40 to 32 on us in cities (with 2 more of Azza's soon to fall) and makes 602gpt to our 475gpt at max tax
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What's the population and land area situation like?
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SevenSpirits Wrote:What's the population and land area situation like?

Well lemme log in and take a look around

Landwise, we are in 2nd place, with 362 total tiles, which is 18.28% of the world. That makes 1980 tiles. Krill has 510 tiles, according to F9, which is 25.75%

We have 21.58% of the total population, with our 276 total pop. That makes 1279 total population. Krill has 33% of the pop, which gives him between 422-433 pop. We can probably stand to grow a bit closer in that, since we are still growing our cities while (most of) Krill's empire is mature. Though he will have all of Azza's lands to grow back. I'm also not clear if the former Azza's cities that are still in revolt are already counted in his population figures (I think so)

I'm not sure how best to estimate the other civ's numbers (if you have ideas, I'm happy to run them through), but I'd say something like

(Fake Edit - I guess I could coutn up everyone's cities - good thing I loveya lol)

Population
Krill 427
Us 276
Scooter 217
Nakor 194
Comm 123
Cyneheard 20
Azza 18
BRick 10

I think that adds up - I was missing a few cities mostly due to war so I spread those numbers out throughout the civs (mostly to Scooter since he's the one that is WINNING both wars)

Land-wise, just taking some guesses
Krill 510 tiles
Us 362
Nakor 350
Scooter 300
Comm 180
Cyne 85
Brick 38
Azza 30

I'd say there's maybe 100 or so tiles not claimed - most of those would be in Scooter's sphere of influence (now that he's put Nakor to the beatdown)

So Krill is the clear #1, especially now that tech trading has allowed the rest of the pack to catch up to Scooter's crazy early tech lead.
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Interesting. Definitely the rampant tech-whoring has taken a toll on scooter. It apparently didn't hurt him much in the nakor smack down. Do you have vision on krills armies?
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waterbat Wrote:Interesting. Definitely the rampant tech-whoring has taken a toll on scooter. It apparently didn't hurt him much in the nakor smack down. Do you have vision on krills armies?

We have vision on some of Krill's army. There is a big chunk of it that is wiping out Azza. I logged out but I want to say we're at about 1.2 million to Krill's 1.6 million in power.

Scooter's problem is that he started with BRick on a smallish island. So he has a decent amount of population but it's spread across several islands. He doesn't have the benefit of that huge western continent, although it's not like that was GIVEN to us - we etched out our toehold and then killed Yuri for the rest of it hammer
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I remember being worried about your little toe-hold back when you put it there. Thought for sure Yuri/commodore was going to boot you off.
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waterbat Wrote:Interesting. Definitely the rampant tech-whoring has taken a toll on scooter. It apparently didn't hurt him much in the nakor smack down. Do you have vision on krills armies?

Hard to have any sympathy for scooter here; he has been the biggest tech whore by how I recall things.

waterbat Wrote:I remember being worried about your little toe-hold back when you put it there. Thought for sure Yuri/commodore was going to boot you off.

Heh, me too. Good thing Commodore did the more difficult route of invading our mainland instead of going after the harder-to-defend cities on his landmass.
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Finished up the turn

Scooter lost a city to BRick (again) smoke He also moved a frigate over towards Stand up and Win

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I moved our sentry-like galleon onto the same tile. I also peaked into his city of Black Peter, which is guarded by a single archer lol We have another frigate and galleon near the city, and another few ships heading that way

For some reason we can now see Scooter's research again (maybe I just needed to complain about it? lol) - Constitution (78).

I saw that you have the workers on the mainland watermilling that farm. The other thing we could do with the 1fpt surplus would be to give the grass hill mine over to More Cowbell and hire a (nother) merchant. I swapped the engineer to the merchant, since with market+grocer+bank that gives a pretty good return. Seems definitely better than 2/0/1 ocean.
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As for Krill's army, we can currently see 22 knights and 17 catapults. I wanna say that that's the majority of his Azza-related army. He had 40-some knights earlier, but I bet that the rest are either dead, healing or garrisoning old-Azza-ville.

We might want to consider bringing our knights back to the mainland, to flank his cats if he tries to attack us.
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