WW16: The Outlaws and The Olives

[Jkaen]

Nice to see that you feel the need to step and anwer a question I put to novice.

Glad to help

[Mattimeo]

Changes to lynching patterns due to a slight in geneal activity levels seems like a bad precedent to be setting...
I also don't see how people being inactive, as opposed to simply not playing, is all that detrimental in the current state. We don't need an absolute majority to lynch, just more than is on any other candidate. Inactives have as good a chance of decucting a vote against a town as they do against a wolf.


Twinkletoes89 for both the point last night about how only a scum novice would still be alive this morning, and the post this morning containing only a vote. I can only assume that the justifiction is what I just mentioned, but it's not exactly that difficult to refer to your reasoning...

[novice]

Changes to lynching patterns due to a slight in geneal activity levels seems like a bad precedent to be setting...
I also don't see how people being inactive, as opposed to simply not playing, is all that detrimental in the current state. We don't need an absolute majority to lynch, just more than is on any other candidate. Inactives have as good a chance of decucting a vote against a town as they do against a wolf.


Twinkletoes89 for both the point last night about how only a scum novice would still be alive this morning, and the post this morning containing only a vote. I can only assume that the justifiction is what I just mentioned, but it's not exactly that difficult to refer to your reasoning...

You're voting for TT because he didn't state the reason for his vote, even though the reason is obvious?

Why do we have a baner when Bigger said we wouldn't have one?

Why have you not been able to protect anyone?

Very tempted to vote for you.

[waterbat]

I have to agree that the lack of any countermovement against Catwalk until the very end makes him lean village.

starting to think that the reason day1 was such a cluster was that we had 2 wolves up there to start things off.

Mattimeo

cue Meiz coming in and saying this isnt the first vote of the day on Mattimeo - its actually the second since novice said he was tempted to vote

[Mattimeo]

You're voting for TT because he didn't state the reason for his vote, even though the reason is obvious?

Primarily for the post he made overnight, secondarily for the fact he didn't even attempt to contribute to discussion this morning.

Why do we have a baner when Bigger said we wouldn't have one?

I've no idea. I will point out that BRick specified a lack of "classic" baner. I can only assume the 3-shot modifier and the fact that all night actions targetting that person fail, rather than just kills, differentiate it enough that BRick included it.

Why have you not been able to protect anyone?

Last night specifically, I didn't target uber because I assumed that the wolves would avoid him, given you'd pointed out I should be saving him. Turns out second-guessing wasn't the correct way of going about things.

[Meiz]

Meiz coming in and saying this isnt the first vote of the day on Mattimeo - its actually the second since novice said he was tempted to vote

Wtf, you keep bringing that up You still haven't explained why that is your key argument to counter all the suspicion I have against you.

[waterbat]

Wtf, you keep bringing that up You still haven't explained why that is your key argument to counter all the suspicion I have against you.

it was a joke Meiz no worries.

If you have current suspicions on me, let me know. I will do my best on them.

[novice]

Player list: (in order of signup)
19 players left, at least 5 are wolves. It's like shooting fish in a barrel - too bad the barrelmaker is dead.

1) novice: the Secretary
2) Injera: the Electrician
3) Meiz: the Firefighter
4) zakalwe: the Farmer - Village - Killed night 1
5) Qgqqqqq: the Student
6) Rowain: the Town drunk
7) Molach: the Street musician
8) Azza: the Mechanic
9) Waterbat: the Clergy
10) Pindicator: the Lawyer
11) Merovech: the Bartender - Village - Lynched day 3
12) Serdoa: the Chef - Village - Killed night 2
13) Bigger: the Milkman - Village - Suicided night 2
14) Ichabod: the Pizza Delivery Boy
15) Arromir: the Newspaper Editor
16) Sareln: the Psychiatrist - Village - Lynched Day 2
17) tasunke: the Librarian
18) thestick: the Mailman - Mafia - Lynched Day 1
19) Lewwyn: the Garbage collector
20) uberfish: the Barrel-maker - Village - Killed night 3
21) Catwalk: the Bureaucrat
22) Gaspar: the Carpenter
23) Jkaen: the Olive Picker
24) Mattimeo: the Wine connoisseur
25) Selrahc: the Knife smith
26) Twinkletoes89: the Barber

DAY ONE

thestick - 9 - zakalwe, novice, Bigger, tasunke, Mattimeo, Arromir, Serdoa, Twinkletoes89, Molach
Bigger - 8 - Rowain, Lewwyn, Injera, Jkaen, Sareln, Merovech, uberfish, Catwalk
Injera - 2 - Gaspar, Waterbat
Waterbat - 1 - Azza
uberfish - 1 - Qgqqqqq
Gaspar - 1 - Selrahc
Jkaen - 1 - Meiz
Merovech - 1 - Pindicator

Players not voting: Ichabod, thestick

Mayor vote:

zakalwe - 9 - Pindicator, Lewwyn, Meiz, zakalwe, Bigger, tasunke, Serdoa, Molach, Arromir
novice - 4 - novice, Jkaen, Catwalk, Qgqqqqq
Rowain - 4 - uberfish, Azza, Mattimeo, Rowain
Lewwyn - 2 - Sareln, Twinkletoes89
uberfish - 2 - thestick, Gaspar
Meiz - 1 - Merovech
Serdoa - 1 - Injera
Waterbat - 1 - Waterbat

Players not voting: Ichabod, Selrahc

DAY TWO

Sareln - 8 - Mattimeo, Arromir, tasunke, Merovech, Molach, Pindicator, Twinkletoes89, Serdoa
Pindicator - 7 - Rowain, Sareln, Ichabod, uberfish, novice, Meiz, Catwalk
Ichabod - 5 - Lewwyn, Injera, Gaspar, Qgqqqqq, Jkaen
uberfish - 3 - Azza, Bigger, Waterbat
Qgqqqqq - 1 - Selrahc

Players not voting: None

Mayor vote:

novice - 12 - Merovech, Rowain, Injera, Jkaen, Molach, Meiz, Mattimeo, novice, Gaspar, uberfish, Catwalk, Ichabod
Lewwyn - 8 - Sareln, Qgqqqqq, Bigger, Azza, tasunke, Arromir, Lewwyn, Waterbat
Serdoa - 2 - Twinkletoes89,
Bigger - 1 - Pindicator

Players not voting: Selrahc

DAY THREE

Merovech - 9 - uberfish, Catwalk, Waterbat, Mattimeo, novice, Meiz, Rowain, Gaspar, Azza
Catwalk - 7 - Lewwyn, Pindicator, Qgqqqqq, Twinkletoes89, Ichabod, Merovech, Injera
Rowain - 1 - tasunke
Selrahc - 1 - Jkaen

Players not voting: Arromir, Molach, Selrahc

[Rowain]

Who are your top candidates Rowain? Is it still Pindicator?

Good Question. Since I'm obviously forbidden to ask questions by the HCI I will simple list a few oddities.
Part1:

-Azza: I do not like his 30h no word but right in time to cast the killing vote on Merovech yesterday.

-Tasunke (@usual Yes I'm listing someone who votes for me so don't wet you pants): His play so far has been chaotic pure and his votes are strewn around without any reasoning behind.
Day 2

After day2 I dont feel much like posting

but I think Ill vote Twinkletoes

Asked to clarify he answers:

I dunno, feeling partly stupid, partly used, yadda yadda

Asked to contribute he answers

fair enough ... I'll check to see which of the top candidates I feel like voting for.

After TT laid out his theory to vote novice Tasunke comments:

You know what my theory is? My theory is that Meiz is not faking, and therefore neither was novice.

Merovech.

And after a lot of chatter he says he reuses the nighttime chatter and the fact that I can't see a reason why a villager would fake a PR to vote me here
Today he votes without any further comment.

-Ichabod: Partly because of day 2: 30 mins before lynch it was pindi 7 / Ichabod 6 when Merovech, Molach, pindi (who braught himself more in danger) TT tied Sareln with pindi and Serdoa sealed the deal. Now Merovech and Serdoa are known villagers but I doubt that all those rushing to hang Sareln were some. Especially given that novice,uberfish and Lewwyn were not on Sareln - but partly even against a Sareln-lynch.
Partly because he used so much time to defend others: Now I know that makes me look like an ungratefull Bastard but that he digged deep to defend me several times makes me nervous. He also defended Selrach, threw dirt on Molach and defended him in the same post. threw suspicion on Meiz.
Voted Arromir and said:

I think I'll research Injera and Lewwyn afterwards, since i got a feeling that something is wrong there.

the post on Injera did appear the one on Lewwyn not. But he joins Lewwyn on the Catwalk-waggon despite that he first called reasons to vote catwalk bad but he did state that Lewwyn won him over.
In short I'm really torn with him: Sometimes I think he has to be a villager with little time and a lot of passion and others I do see a very cunning clever wolf who uses WoT to stun people so that they doin't realise that there is only air (WW7 does come to mind).

[Jkaen]

Well, tried to view the voting records graphically incase they becamse clearer at all (based on pindicator spreadsheet, data unchecked). I have to admit they didnt help me as I hoped, but since I have done the work, maybe it may help others: