RBP3 - [SPOILERS] - Team DIM (Mehmed of HRE)

[novice]

I'll do my best to contribute to your weedometer:

UB: Rathaus
- Courthouse replacement that is 2x as effective as a regular Courthouse
- Cost: 60 hammers

The Rathaus give 75% decrease in maintenance costs, a courthouse gives 50% decrease in maintenance cost. That is 1.5x effectiveness. Also the base cost is of course 120 hammers but I do realize that you're organized.

Burning down a rathaus is 2x as effective as burning down a courthouse, as burning down a rathaus gives a city 4x maintenance costs, whereas burning down a courthouse just gives a 2x increase in maintenance costs.

Now feel free to reciprocate and out any errors in my comments.

[dazedroyalty]

Burning down a rathaus is 2x as effective as burning down a courthouse, as burning down a rathaus gives a city 4x maintenance costs, whereas burning down a courthouse just gives a 2x increase in maintenance costs.

Burning down? You mean someone trying to sabotage it with spies? Since spies aren't allowed in this game, that wouldn't be a problem. Can you clarify what you mean?

[meatbalz]

well here we go:

http://www.civfanatics.com/civ4/strategy...hp#shuffle

usefulness: less than zero

looks like sulla wants us to figure things out ourselves :neenernee

[novice]

Burning down? You mean someone trying to sabotage it with spies? Since spies aren't allowed in this game, that wouldn't be a problem. Can you clarify what you mean?

Yeah that was the idea, but it was just a construed example of a scenario where the multiplier works out to 2x. I guess I was also thinking of bombing it, but that was Civ3 I guess.

[meatbalz]

I'll do my best to contribute to your weedometer:



The Rathaus give 75% decrease in maintenance costs, a courthouse gives 50% decrease in maintenance cost. That is 1.5x effectiveness. Also the base cost is of course 120 hammers but I do realize that you're organized.

Burning down a rathaus is 2x as effective as burning down a courthouse, as burning down a rathaus gives a city 4x maintenance costs, whereas burning down a courthouse just gives a 2x increase in maintenance costs.

Now feel free to reciprocate and out any errors in my comments.

sure. i meant from the point of view of what you pay. with a courthouse you pay 50% of full cost; with rathaus you pay 25% => rathaus is twice as effective. say your maintenance costs are 8 gold/turn. with a courthouse you pay 4/turn. with a rathaus you pay 2 gold/turn. you pay 50% of what you'd pay with a courthouse. x=0.5y => y=2x

by the same token if a building twice as effective as the rathaus existed, it would reduce maintenance costs by 87.5%. that building would halve my maintenance costs with respect to the rathaus - so it would be twice as effective. i was looking at it from that perspective

edit: a big thank you for the first posted by a lurker

[dazedroyalty]

well here we go:

http://www.civfanatics.com/civ4/strategy...hp#shuffle

usefulness: less than zero

looks like sulla wants us to figure things out ourselves :neenernee

Where did Sulla mention this? You haven't been sneaking into the Map planning thread have you?

[novice]

sure. i meant from the point of view of what you pay. with a courthouse you pay 50% of full cost; with rathaus you pay 25% => rathaus is twice as good. say your maintenance costs are 8 gold/turn. with a courthouse you pay 4/turn. with a rathaus you pay 2 gold/turn. you pay 50% of what you'd pay with a courthouse. x=0.5y => y=2x

by the same token if a building twice as good as the rathaus existed, it would reduce maintenance costs by 87.5%. that building would halve my maintenance costs with respect to the rathaus - would it really only be (87.5/75) 16.7% better?

Yes.

If your city pays 8 maintenance without a courthouse,
- A courthouse saves 4 gold
- A rathaus save 6 gold (50% or 1.5x better than a courthouse)
- An uberrathaus saves 7 gold (16.7% or 7/6ths better than a rathaus)

[meatbalz]

Where did Sulla mention this? You haven't been sneaking into the Map planning thread have you?

haha! i get to use a of my own ; it's part of the (very limited) map info on civstats:

http://www.civstats.com/viewgame.php?gameid=1657

[dazedroyalty]

haha! i get to use a of my own ; it's part of the (very limited) map info on civstats:

http://www.civstats.com/viewgame.php?gameid=1657

Way to be observant! (And not cheat!) We're off to a great start!

[meatbalz]

Way to be observant! (And not cheat!) We're off to a great start!

it would be a better start if the description of the Shuffle map script weren't (quoted from the civfanatics link)

Shuffle will create very random maps. If you want the map to be a complete surprise, Shuffle might be for you!