February 11th, 2016, 16:49
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Yeah, that's a good point. I think dreylin being on a lake instead of a sea like the other civs is the culprit of the irrigation -- but the corn is pretty big (and something I missed when looking over the map earlier!)
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February 11th, 2016, 17:34
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Was the Vikings roll for Xenu really and absolutely random  ?
February 11th, 2016, 19:50
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(February 11th, 2016, 17:34)Miguelito Wrote: Was the Vikings roll for Xenu really and absolutely random ?
no comment 
and I sent you guys another PM!
February 11th, 2016, 19:51
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(February 11th, 2016, 15:34)mackoti Wrote: DID Dreylin got not just one more resource(corn) but as well he has irigatted both his resources?I think might be alilte pwoerfull compared to others.
Good catch, thank you, I moved some stuff near his start that I didn't notice the effects of late at night. Note to pind and fenn: this isnt fixed in the version I just sent, but is on my local copy.
February 12th, 2016, 09:59
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Pig on peaks as monsters? 
Or is that too overdone?
February 13th, 2016, 07:38
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map notes:
- the map is essentially a stencil placed over the PB24 map, with starts replaced by hand-crafted, mirrored capitals. some minor editing was done on top of that, due to some land getting cut apart by the stencil and the capitals. the capitals are my favorite part - they make me feel like you're settling in the ruins of Jurassic Park, or something like that!
- there are a lot of monsters on the map! about one for every 30 workable tiles or so. they're all kinda mixed up, rather than being zoned by originating culture, because i didn't want it to seem like there was a bias in which monster was "supposed to" be for what player, or whatever. there's only so many pig/cow/horse/beaver/elephant/sheep/fish/whale based monsters in history, so, uh, I had to get a bit creative with them. sometimes that meant putting resources on non-natural tiles; for example, sheep on mountains for odin's goats, a horse in water for a hippocampus), the hydra is in a jungled lake (a swamp), etc. these tiles can't be improved, so its just for flavor.
- there's 166 land tiles per player, but the map is also very watery. players will have somewhere between 1 coast for every 2 land and 2 coast for every 3 land, once their empires are fairly developed. boats will be important!
- like pb27, the land is not perfectly balanced. i tried compensating players with more neighbors and/or less total land with richer land (on average) to compensate. however, it's still pretty close overall.
- the map wraps toroidally, but there's an extremely prominent map-wide reference that will hopefully make things easier to follow later.
- thanks a ton to Fenn and Pindicator, who were huge help!
Picks:
* Dreylin and Auroarcher - Zara Yabob (Cre/Org) of Egypt
* AdrienIer & Mardoc - Suleiman (Imp/Phi) of Aztec
* Jowy - Joao (Exp/Imp) of France (or Russia if he reloads)
* Ichabod & Bobchillingworth - Wangkon (Fin/Pro) of Byzantium
* AutomatedTeller - Gilgamesh (Cre/Pro) of Ottomans
* Molach - Tokugawa (Agg/Pro) of Mongols
* Mr. Cairo - Mao (Exp/Pro) of England
* Gawdzak - Louis XIV (Cre/Ind) of Persia
* BRickAstley & Pirate Blood God - Shaka (Agg/Exp) of Vikings
* Boldly Going Nowhere - Darius (Fin/Org) of China
* NylesStandish - Charlemagne (Imp/Pro) of India
* yuris125 - Pericles (Cre/Phi) of Germany
February 13th, 2016, 11:25
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(February 13th, 2016, 07:38)GermanJoey Wrote: map notes:
- the map is essentially a stencil placed over the PB24 map, with starts replaced by hand-crafted, mirrored capitals. some minor editing was done on top of that, due to some land getting cut apart by the stencil and the capitals. the capitals are my favorite part - they make me feel like you're settling in the ruins of Jurassic Park, or something like that!
- there are a lot of monsters on the map! about one for every 30 workable tiles or so. they're all kinda mixed up, rather than being zoned by originating culture, because i didn't want it to seem like there was a bias in which monster was "supposed to" be for what player, or whatever. there's only so many pig/cow/horse/beaver/elephant/sheep/fish/whale based monsters in history, so, uh, I had to get a bit creative with them. sometimes that meant putting resources on non-natural tiles; for example, sheep on mountains for odin's goats, a horse in water for a hippocampus), the hydra is in a jungled lake (a swamp), etc. these tiles can't be improved, so its just for flavor.
- there's 166 land tiles per player, but the map is also very watery. players will have somewhere between 1 coast for every 2 land and 2 coast for every 3 land, once their empires are fairly developed. boats will be important!
- like pb27, the land is not perfectly balanced. i tried compensating players with more neighbors and/or less total land with richer land (on average) to compensate. however, it's still pretty close overall.
- the map wraps toroidally, but there's an extremely prominent map-wide reference that will hopefully make things easier to follow later.
- thanks a ton to Fenn and Pindicator, who were huge help!
Picks:
* Dreylin and Auroarcher - Zara Yabob (Cre/Org) of Egypt
* AdrienIer & Mardoc - Suleiman (Imp/Phi) of Aztec
* Jowy - Joao (Exp/Imp) of France (or Russia if he reloads)
* Ichabod & Bobchillingworth - Wangkon (Fin/Pro) of Byzantium
* AutomatedTeller - Gilgamesh (Cre/Pro) of Ottomans
* Molach - Tokugawa (Agg/Pro) of Mongols
* Mr. Cairo - Mao (Exp/Pro) of England
* Gawdzak - Louis XIV (Cre/Ind) of Persia
* BRickAstley & Pirate Blood God - Shaka (Agg/Exp) of Vikings
* Boldly Going Nowhere - Darius (Fin/Org) of China
* NylesStandish - Charlemagne (Imp/Pro) of India
* yuris125 - Pericles (Cre/Phi) of Germany Could you post the final map...sure love to give it a go in SP. Thanks. 
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February 13th, 2016, 19:30
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Here, I'll just PM it to you. You can PM it to others, if you want, but I think I won't post the full map here, so it's more fun for lurkers to explore with the players, a la PB27.
February 13th, 2016, 20:45
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(February 13th, 2016, 19:30)GermanJoey Wrote: Here, I'll just PM it to you. You can PM it to others, if you want, but I think I won't post the full map here, so it's more fun for lurkers to explore with the players, a la PB27. Any idea why you get defeated immediately after starting the map?
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February 14th, 2016, 16:58
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Seeing Dreylin's start, it occurs to me he has an extra grassland instead of a coast in his BFC. Can't imagine that'll be more than a marginal advantage over the others; Lighthouse Coast is better in the short term, and there's no reason to consider working it until Size 5 at least.
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