[spoilers] Pindicator and Regoarrarr - Bismark of Ethiopia

[regoarrarr]

Turn rolled. Tragically I wore my laptop's battery down last night before I realized that I left my power cord at work So this weekend I will only be able to play in an emergency.

5 score increases this turn (T25).

3 of them were land: us +3, Brick +12, and scooter +8. All of this actually matched up with our land guesses from 20 turns ago in the spreadsheet

Krill and Commodore both got techs this turn, and without looking at the demographics, I would expect both of them to be Bronze Working.

[regoarrarr]

Next turn, we should expect land points from the following civs, with our guesses from 20t ago in parentheses

Commodore (9)
Cyneheard (9)
Azza (9)

Those may not be the exact numbers, since it's all but impossible to differentiate between the 3 of them, but the land point increase next turn should add up to 27, and we can then adjust our numbers retroactively.

Also, when you check demos, we'll want to make sure to catch land area, since on T25, Ceiliazul and Yuris125 should be popping the 3rd ring of their capital. This time we should be able to at least make an educated guess as to which one is which, since we'll know the total land tiles for one of them (whoever is max land)

[pindicator]

Okay, next turn played. Sandler went 2SE and Murray started mining.

Demos:



Average Soldier Points increased by 2k, which matches up with Commodore & Krill both getting 8k for BW.

With land there are 18 additional tiles under someone's culture. Since top land is 25 tiles now, I'm guessing it went down like this:

Ceiliazul 15 -> 25
Yuri 11 -> 19

[regoarrarr]

Looks good. I agree with your guesses for the land area. Now that folks are soon going to be settling their cities, we'll need to be sure to monitor that each turn.

As for the population tab of the spreadsheet, with the enhanced score tab, do you see any point to having a separate tab for population?

[pindicator]

As for the population tab of the spreadsheet, with the enhanced score tab, do you see any point to having a separate tab for population?

Not unless you want to a sheet to double check population via demographics.

[Serdoa]

Is there anywhere a link to this sheet? Or a possibility to get a screenie from it here? I'd really love to know how you guys are doing it.

[pindicator]

Turn flipped and Brick missed another. Btw, has anybody been Rick-Rolled by him yet? Because how can you have a name like that and not be constantly throw Rick Astley links into your posts? I suppose you can wait for him to eliminate another civ and then say they got "Brick Rolled"...



Ah, bad puns. Where would I be without them?

Anyhow, the turn. Score increases went as follows:

Commodore: 56 -> 62. +6 land tiles
Cyneheard: 53 -> 65. +12 land tiles
Azza: 51 -> 66. +9 land tiles & Bronze Working
Us: 51 -> 53. +1 pop

I updated the land part. Bronze Working I figure is correct because of the demos:


[SIZE="1"]Pre-whipping demos[/size]

Average soldiers went from 13625 to 14375, or a 6k increase over 8 players. I started thinking maybe Azza didn't go for BW, but then I noticed that the minimum soldier score lowered from 11k to 9k. So Azza did get BW and either Ceiliazul or Cyneheard lost their warrior. I'm put it down under Cyneheard since Ceiliazul has all the luck in these early game warrior rushes But there are a lot of question marks beside it.

And for the actual playing of the turn, the worker got to chopping and the settler got to being whipped:

Is there anywhere a link to this sheet? Or a possibility to get a screenie from it here? I'd really love to know how you guys are doing it.

I don't know if I can give access to it, but it is in google docs so we would need your account there. Honestly, I don't see why not, but I'll let my more paranoid* teammate weigh in on the access part. It's not really all that different from what's been done before.

We're tracking soldier demos and land demos by turn, which is pretty standard compared to how other people have done it before. Score sheet is probably a little different than other people have used, so here's a screenshot of Commodore & Cyneheard's score:



This breaks down the score into it's 4 components. Total Pts is a formula that calculates it out so you can play with population, land, wonders, pop a little easier when trying to figure out what changes were made. Land points make a good cross check with the land demos, like this turn where we got the land points from Cyneheard, Commodore, & Azza.

I suppose now that I'm posting it, you guys can tell me where my formula is wrong. For some reason when I floor the entire thing together it is too low on turn 1, and when I floor all the components separately it is too high. But flooring out the population separately and then everything else together has worked so far

And now it's time to drown myself in coffee (and use another smiley):




[SIZE="1"]*Comparatively speaking everybody is more paranoid than me. I am really naive.[/SIZE]

[regoarrarr]

A few things to note

I did see that Brick logged in at the end of last turn, so it's possible that he queued things up there, if he knew he was going to be out for this turn. It is worrying though....

I'm noticing max GNP is down to 24. I think that still has to be Ceiliazul, and he hasn't gotten a tech lately, but maybe he has changed from working a seafood tile to a (now improved) corn / wheat / rice tile? If I remember, he was the first to grow to size 2 (having gone we think WB first), so this seems to be pretty close to when his worker would improve its first tile.

[pindicator]

New turn's in. I'm going to bed but I will make an educated guess at what the score increases mean without logging into the game:

Ceiliazul: 65 -> 71. Tech
Commodore: 62 -> 64. Pop 1 -> 2
Cyneheard: 65 -> 68. Pop 2 -> 3
Krill: 53 -> 68. Land Tiles +12; Pop 2 -> 3

[regoarrarr]

Played the turn. Overflowed from settler -> Warrior. Moved settler onto the grass hill that Bill Murray is mining.

Next turn we want to move the settler SW to the plains hill. We probably want to do that towards the end of the turn, to minimize our odds of being double moved (though I think the odds of that happening are fairly low).

Your guesses on score increases look right to me. Avg Soldiers was up to 16K, so I put Ceiliazul on BW, and 2 warriors being built. Max power went up to 20K which seems like it has to be BRick. I gave the other warrior to Dazed / Scooter. I would have thought BRick was building a settler given the whole grow to size 2, starve to size 1 jibber-jabber from a few turns ago, but a) maybe he popped a warrior from a hut (mbn), or b) maybe I was wrong.