September 22nd, 2015, 09:13
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(September 22nd, 2015, 08:00)Rowain Wrote: Since the start of the game you have spent most of your time arguing that I have hidden special killing powers or that I'm a secret superscum all with abilities not listed in Jabbz master-list.
Oh, and just for the record. This is a lie. This is not you misunderstanding anything, this is just lieing Rowain. I don't know why, but it is. The first part (neither said I hidden nor did I argue it, I just mentioned it) I have explained why I thought that you have a killing power and it were your own words that made me think so. You never refute that point when I bring it up, because you know it is true.
The second part of your post I never stated at all and that's were you blatantly lie. The only thing I did was thinking you had more powers than 4, when you did not clearly state if you have more, less or whatever.
Honestly, the only one who is lieing since D1, who is hiding stuff and who is deliberately misunderstanding others is you. You say I'm trying to set you up, I say, the only one who is setting people up is you.
September 22nd, 2015, 09:17
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If we assume for now that neither of you are scum, do either of you have any thoughts on Zakalwe?
September 22nd, 2015, 09:23
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Just want to say I love today. A lot of interesting discussion.
“The wind went mute and the trees in the forest stood still. It was time for the last tale.”
September 22nd, 2015, 09:33
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September 22nd, 2015, 09:42
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(September 22nd, 2015, 09:33)Gazglum Wrote: Care to add to it? :P
Right now I want to hear more from Zak. I am considering what you said Gaz. The thing is you could be lying about being blocked and have blocked him or it could be the other way round.
“The wind went mute and the trees in the forest stood still. It was time for the last tale.”
September 22nd, 2015, 11:14
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(September 22nd, 2015, 09:23)Lewwyn Wrote: Just want to say I love today. A lot of interesting discussion.
Just want to say that this is a classic scumwyn post.  The first one you've had that really pinged my scumdar loudly.
That said, I'm still on my extended lunch break, and I still want to parse the backlog more thoroughly before drawing too many conclusions.
If you know what I mean.
September 22nd, 2015, 11:15
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I hope you're having some wine with this gentleman's lunch Zak, it must be into its fifth hour by now.
September 22nd, 2015, 11:22
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(September 22nd, 2015, 02:12)Lewwyn Wrote: (September 22nd, 2015, 00:50)zakalwe Wrote: Good posts, Lewwyn. My only concern is that that it's somewhat convenient to claim a sensor result that just confirms what everybody was assuming, anyway. Why not use repositioning and save the sensor for a more interesting lynch?
It would have been convenient no matter who was the sensor. I didn't see your post at night before I sent in my order about sensor. And Gazglum only brought it up again during the day while I was asleep. (Funny how he was basically so sure a sensor read would be 1 scum.) I did consider repositioning, and I will likely do that tonight, but I ultimately decided against it because I felt I wasn't going to be nightkilled as part of the lynch crew and I thought I was supicious enough after the end of Day 1 that someone else would be a higher target. As for waiting for a more interesting lynch... weren't we trying to have even voters at the end of Day 1 so that a sensor read would be interesting already?
The fact is I used the sensor ability and I got the result I recieved and I can't help that its convenient or what people expected. I knew that it would seem convenient when I posted it, but I didn't really have a choice if I didn't want to lie.
Re: more interesting lynch. If we had seen a late swing ending with just 3 people on the lynch, that would have been a lot more promising. A lynch with 4 players on it, and no movement for the last 3 hours or so, was not the best we could hope for. I think that is pretty clear and easy to realize. That's also why Serdoa's push to 4-4 is suspicious, as Bacchus elaborated nicely. It would be a big risk to leave AdrienIer in lynchable range if there were no scum on him. Regardless of his alignment, actually.
If you know what I mean.
September 22nd, 2015, 11:23
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(September 22nd, 2015, 11:15)Gazglum Wrote: I hope you're having some wine with this gentleman's lunch Zak, it must be into its fifth hour by now.
I wish.
If you know what I mean.
September 22nd, 2015, 11:52
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zak, everyone hammers the point that my switch is suspicious for reasons we all know now. But none up to now answers when I ask:
- why did I do it with only 2 minutes left?
As you stated, we had 3 hours without movement. And I only come up in the last minute with the switch? If you tell me that's because I was feared of last minute switches, then that leads to my question 2:
- don't you think I would have come up with a better reasoning?
I stated that I don't like the BRick vote earlier on D1 and that the reasoning of the voters seemed bad. I could have easily hopped onto AdrienIer with that reasoning. I could have done without reasoning or with the one I gave and when you ask explain it away with the bad feeling I had about the BRick-lynch.
And that's really what I don't get. I understand that it is suspicious at first glance. But look at those two questions I bring up time and again. Why at that point and not earlier, and why with that explanation? It really comes down to believing that I did not only panick at the last minute, despite knowing for 3 hours what was happening, but that I also panicked a second time when you asked me for explanation. I have a hard time believing that anyone that played with me would believe that.
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