January 24th, 2015, 12:32
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Fair enough. Would you mind quoting #5 from Old Harry's own "pitboss etiquette" thread into their thread then please. I'm pretty sure we haven't been asked for explicit permission...
January 24th, 2015, 12:41
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For the lurkers:
In the past 5 turns there were two declarations and on this turn when Adrien offered ceasefire he also moved an axe within range of three workers - the situation is clearly unstable and there should be a turnsplit. (In fact, he shouldn't even have known that we have accepted the ceasefire so as far as he and OH were concerned it was still a state of war).
There's really no need to log in outside their half (first OH then Adrien) and I would like to insist that there be no looking outside one's half of the turnsplit.
(January 14th, 2015, 07:28)Old Harry Wrote: I'd trust anyone here to log in ahead or behind me to look, but I prefer to make sure that the person I'm fighting feels the same way before I do it - it's too easy to get overly invested and angry about something we should all be doing for fun  Would be nice if OH kept to this.
January 24th, 2015, 21:17
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Not sure if any of the lurkers said anything in their thread, so I sent them a quick PM:
Quote:Hey guys,
Just wanted to send you a quick note to say that ipecac and I would be more comfortable if you'd stick to the turn split (when there is one) in future.
Thanks,
Dreylin.
January 24th, 2015, 23:49
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What's wrong with just looking when its not your half of the timer, as long as you're not touching? That certainly wasn't a unanimous agreement from the "pitboss etiquette" thread, although its certainly ironic that OH is doing it too even though he was the one suggested we all not to. 
That said, it certainly does sound like continuing the turn-split for awhile even in "peace" would be the best for everyone...
January 25th, 2015, 00:13
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Well I guess it's a measure of comfort level, and some are more comfortable than others (hence the controversy in the etiquette thread).
Yeah on the turnsplit, especially while there's potential conflict with Elum as well - we need to see whether Adrien's Axe moves away before we can pivot our forces fully towards the other front.
Plus we might want to swipe another Worker....
January 25th, 2015, 00:38
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(January 24th, 2015, 23:49)GermanJojo Wrote: What's wrong with just looking when its not your half of the timer, as long as you're not touching? Yeah, but how do I know there isn't touching?
Also, PB22 Spoiler (not spoiler for Jojo)
Quote:That said, it certainly does sound like continuing the turn-split for awhile even in "peace" would be the best for everyone...
Yeah, though as I pointed out as far as they were concerned it was still war: they offered cease, but they couldn't be sure that we would have accepted, or that after accepting we could have redeclared to kill that a[/spoiler]xe.
So it's not even an ambiguous case.
January 25th, 2015, 01:10
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(January 25th, 2015, 00:38)ipecac Wrote: (January 24th, 2015, 23:49)GermanJojo Wrote: What's wrong with just looking when its not your half of the timer, as long as you're not touching? Yeah, but how do I know there isn't touching?
Also, PB22 Spoiler (not spoiler for Jojo)
True true, I completely understand.
January 25th, 2015, 11:51
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Prophet is born. Johns reoffered map trade; we accepted.
Highlight:
![[Image: 99-1.png?raw=1]](https://www.dropbox.com/s/6bd35c4sx89f088/99-1.png?raw=1)
He has a Buddhist city  , however we don't get much view of Adrien's land. We do get to see a little bit of CH's and quite some of Grunkle's; if we swap with Grunkle we should achieve circumnavigation 
Adrien retreated his Axe, which is good. Now we have to figure out how to get the Settler (1E of PP) to our site while preventing Elum from killing it:
![[Image: 99-2.png?raw=1]](https://www.dropbox.com/s/t3oktl11csvjrkw/99-2.png?raw=1)
My plan is to move to Settler only 3 places to Filler tile, so Elum cannot see it if he moves it 1SW. We also move our 2 Axes in the east 2W, and the other Axe in the NE back 1SW to where we want to settle. He will see see all three axes. Next turn, we just move the settler and the other two axes to the hill. If (worst case scenario) he logs in first and moves his Axe+Chariot 1S or 1SW...[strike]we just use our three axes and chariot to kill them but IMO I don't think he'll risk that. [/strike] it doesn't really matter
ETA- Adrien's workers are still there. Are you thinking what I'm thinking?
Others: I forgot to report that Elum got stone a few turns back; he needs to build the Pyramids. Like seriously, it's T99 and no one has built it yet.
January 26th, 2015, 10:18
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Elum double-moved us, which means he's not intending nefarious actions, nor does he think he's in a Settling race. Since we hadn't seen a Worker roading towards the front yet, I think this is probably just an exploring party - however there's a good chance that it could become trapped when we found the city....
January 26th, 2015, 22:24
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OK, so t100 has been played:
That's 2 foreign cities with Buddhism! 
Elum withdrew his troops to 1NW of our Axe (2NW of the city location). I left that Axe where it was and moved up the Settler and the healthy Axe. The injured Axe I held in place to heal for a turn.
Here's what's going on in the NE:
My guess is that the Settler is heading for the PFH 3E of Access Point - which would not be great for us. The Workers have finished their respective tasks and will probably road for the next 2t to connect on Founding. I waited to see if ipecac would come online, but eventually decided that I needed to make a decision and moved the galley 1SE of Access Point as you see in the shot. My reasoning was:
1) Sniping 1Worker is probably not worth declaring war again (particularly now that the chop has finished).
2) grabbing a Settler is.
3) the fact that he's kept the Workers there suggests that he didn't spot the Galley, so let's make sure he doesn't spot it before moving.
4) I really don't want a city on that spot.
Reviewing now, I wonder if I shouldn't have either left the Galley in place, or moved it again to pick up the Axe defogging our potential Moai spot. Hmmmm.
Anyway, I was feeling like we'd held the turn up enough and we should let it roll. Roll it did:
The interesting thing about this is that it tells us that Whosit completed HG because we've traded for a map of the city even though we haven't met him; but it doesn't tell us that Elum completed the Pyramids even though we've met him, because we haven't seen the city in question!  (Confirmed as Persian through the Top5 Cities)
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