[SPOILERS!] Pericles of Babylon. Kyan, Twinkletoes, Whosit.

[Whosit]

Should I log in now before end of turn for demographics tracking or is it better to do it at start of next turn and take those details for last turn?

Take it before the turn ends. Stats can change between turns, especially if a city grows, so they may not be accurate for the last turn.

[Twinkletoes89]

Completed C & D for turn 1 - 2 turns left to complete and then its turn 2

[novice]

i'm in. pic incoming.

WARNING: It's NOT pretty.


EDIT:




Ok, positives, we have plains hills to settle on and grass hills to use.

Negative- EVERYTHING ELSE. There will certainly be food in the fog, but where???

Our only resource is in jungle- which has been edited in.

First impressions are less than happy. I can only hope everyone got similar starts.

Okay, I'll jump in and comment on your plight: This was pretty hilarious.
I guess that's not very helpful though.

Btw, if we lurkers spot errors in your gameplay that are not spoiler-related, would you want us to comment or would you rather not have extra shadow players on your team? Those of you who lurk RBPB2 will be familiar with the discussion.

[Twinkletoes89]

Okay, I'll jump in and comment on your plight: This was pretty hilarious.
I guess that's not very helpful though.

Btw, if we lurkers spot errors in your gameplay that are not spoiler-related, would you want us to comment or would you rather not have extra shadow players on your team? Those of you who lurk RBPB2 will be familiar with the discussion.

As far as I am concerned, I would rather our gameplay was not 'corrected' by lurkers unless they choose to only follow our thread.

I would rather live or die by myself, Kyan's and Whosit's plans and mistakes rather than extend it to more people. We are new to MP - especially myself (who is still not much better than Noble on SP) and I would rather do things our way.

I would prefer to have my mistakes revealed afterwards and learn from them. But I will bow to Kyan and Whosit if they disagree.

BTW, Congratulations novice you are our first ever lurker!!!

[Kyan]

I'll go with TT's wishes since he feels so clearly

Whilst we'd ask that you not point out any tactical errors, feel free to give your opinions on our actions. For the better or, more likely, for the worse.

To be honest, talking to anyone other than TT is a relief! Why you think we invited Whosit

In other news, Ilios n Jowy's team appear to be dragging the first turn on- which i suppose is their prerogative. 5 hours + to go.

Novice- as the first lurker to post in our thread, i think you deserve some sort of reward. Maybe if you ask TT nicely, he might name our warrior in your honour Or we'll find some other means to sound our appreciation.

[Whosit]

To be honest, talking to anyone other than TT is a relief! Why you think we invited Whosit

Ah, so that was it. Simply wanted to keep better company, eh?

Novice- as the first lurker to post in our thread, i think you deserve some sort of reward. Maybe if you ask TT nicely, he might name our warrior in your honour Or we'll find some other means to sound our appreciation.

Hmm, Novice the Warrior. And if he lives long enough to get 5 XP, we rename him Veteran! Heh. Oh, I am so clever . . . .

Since TT mentioned it, I can generally win on Monarch, if my attention span lasts through a whole game, but I really struggle on Emperor and above, on the few games I've played at that level. All I can really bring to the table there, which I mentioned before, but I suppose I should repeat: Don't underestimate the Barbarians! While they won't come (or shouldn't come) nearly as early or in as great a number as on Immortal or Deity, please, please, please do not send Workers or Settler outside of our cultural borders without escorts or VERY well-placed spotters.

Likewise, we will want to get something better than Warriors sooner rather than later, hence my tech plan. If we're very lucky, we find Copper. If not, we can get Bowmen.

While I'm thinking of it, and I'm sure you guys know this already, but keep to defensive terrain as much as possible while scouting. Forested Hill > Forest > Hill > Flatland. If you can manage to get a river between you and an enemy, all the better.

I consider myself to be somewhat competent at military tactics in Civ, and decent at strategy, though I suppose I should mention that my ability to plan out a coherent technology strategy breaks down after the Worker techs are out of the way. It looks like we shouldn't need Fishing any time soon, although Sailing could potentially be useful for river trade. Not a high priority, anyway.

Personally, I think that Pottery and Writing should be fairly high priority once we have something to defend ourselves with. Cottages + Granaries (very important!) and then our cheap Libraries and Philosophically enhanced Scientist Specialists. Yes, they ponder deeply. Deep Ponder.

As a rule of thumb, we should probably have no fewer Workers than we have cities, though more if we can afford to. There's almost always something to do.

Oh, and I suppose might as well road the sheep . . . . Hmm.

No, actually, I'll go with my first idea:

Worker completes: Move to riverside grassland, start farm. Then HIT THE CANCEL ACTIONS BUTTON. 1 turn will still be invested in the farm. Repeat until Animal Husbandry is teched, so we can get to the Pasture immediately (more valuable than grassland farm).

Once the Pasture is done, finish the Farm off (more valuable than road). Then build roads if Mining is not yet researched . . . .

That's the best plan, in my opinion.

[novice]

Maybe if you ask TT nicely, he might name our warrior in your honour Or we'll find some other means to sound our appreciation.

That would be an honour, but you have found a great theme here. Surely your starting warrior should be named Adam?

I didn't realize I was the first lurker as your thread is quite lengthy already.

[Twinkletoes89]

Hmm, Novice the Warrior. And if he lives long enough to get 5 XP, we rename him Veteran! Heh. Oh, I am so clever . . . .

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No, actually, I'll go with my first idea:

Worker completes: Move to riverside grassland, start farm. Then HIT THE CANCEL ACTIONS BUTTON. 1 turn will still be invested in the farm. Repeat until Animal Husbandry is teched, so we can get to the Pasture immediately (more valuable than grassland farm).

Once the Pasture is done, finish the Farm off (more valuable than road). Then build roads if Mining is not yet researched . . . .

That's the best plan, in my opinion.

I like both your ideas Whosit - you're not just a pretty face after all ;-)!

I just hate that 2 teams are dragging this on so much - I suppose we will have to get used to it really with so many teams, however frustrating it may be.

Can someone answer why the Time until next turn keeps extending (or at least it seems to) on CivStats?

EDIT: Make that one team now - Jowy/Nakor et al have just ended turn

[novice]

The timer freezes every time someone logs into the game. So keep your hands off if you're impatient.

Apparently it's one of the rules of life that there will always be one team holding up the timer - just like when you're searching for something, you always find it in the last place you look.

[Twinkletoes89]

- just like when you're searching for something, you always find it in the last place you look.

Well you wouldn't keep looking after you found it? ;-)

Thanks for the response though novice!

Btw - its official. We are one of only 5 teams who have not settled on turn one. I am beginning to come around to Kyan's argument that these starts may not be identical!