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Nicolae Carpathia Wrote:But nevertheless, you were advocating that Rome whips 2 settlers, can afford >6 worker turns to hook up his copper, then >17 worker turns through rough terrain to road up to and connect the iron city. Yes, rome should have thrown it all to get the iron, and then take all the good land, first mali, then egypt. Egypt could kindly clear the jungle. If you can get abit debuffed almost half-priced macemen 100 turns earlier than everyone, do it.
Nicolae Carpathia Wrote:And no, the city of Envy blocks the ability for rome to settle on the coast next to the iron. Not on the coast, but SW of the iron, as I said. It is a grassland 2W of the silk.
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Non-aggressive Praets aren't that good. They lose cost-for-cost against axemen. And not only was the iron closer to Mali for shorter reinforcement times, but Mali had so much better land. This ain't single player, Praets are not overpowered.
Remember, as your 3 Praets are trudging together to advance ~8 turns towards the remnants of their razed iron city, Mali gets to continue to grow and reinforce with way more than enough to wipe out a tiny Roman stacks. You're basically assuming that Ichabod will do absolutely nothing about it. Ichabod is good enough to deal with something like that.
And I mentioned settling on the coast, as that let's you save valuable worker turns to connect the iron to his empire.
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So Rome goes all military, builds-whips a 10 units stack (chariots, axes, archers), 2-worker roads to that grassland, settles as a surprise for Mali. Do Mali have enough to quickly raze the city? Do Mali want to engage a battle that big? Are Mali ready to go all military? I think not. And when Mali realize there is iron and assemble a force strong enough, it be to late.
Plus, pacifistic Rome sounds blasphemous, and AW game pacifistic Rome is a crime against humanity. There should be bloodshed.
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it would have been perhaps the ultimate pink dot. But I think it would have worked out poorly for Rome.
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so who has the size 14 city? (Parkin posted greatest cities page).
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I'm 99% sure it's FFH (Mali), mainly because it's NOT sunrise and they had the largest city outside of sunrise that I saw.
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yeah thats a good guess. Sunrise has one of the level 12's, who has the other one?
(I don't think is moogle or pindicator, but I could be wrong).
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Ethiopia has no contact with Egypt, China, Mali, Korea, England, Rome, Inca, Persia.
The 14 (turn 130) city is founded 3960bc, so it is a capital.
Korea's has Stonehenge, it is size 10 number 1 in the list.
Persia's is size 8 (turn 130).
Rome's is size 6 (turn 128).
China's was 8 (turn 117), I doubt it grew 6 sizes in 13 turns.
Egypt's is 12 (turn 129-130).
Inca's was 5 (turn 106), Inca was deep in war, I doubt it grew to size 14.
Mali was 11 (turn 112), 5 to grow, with unhappy citizens.
England is a mystery. As of turn 118, their crop was higher than Mali's.
![[Image: pb7-turn118-foodgraph.jpg]](http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp323/jwmoore04/Realms%20Beyond%20-%20Pitboss%207/pb7-turn118-foodgraph.jpg)
So, Mali or England.
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definitely not pindicator. China's cap is size 10.
FFH (mali) has to be the size 14 and I think moogle (england) is the other size 12
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it must be mali, gawd. According to Pindicators analysis, FFH has 600 more beakers than sunrise. That shocked me!
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