RBPitboss #2 Athlete4life10 & Kalin

[athlete4life10]

An interesting e-mail fro Korea:

Hi Athlete and Kalin,

I've found out that this map is probably toroidial and our nations aren't actually that far from each other through sea. I see a glimpse of green border in the south from the island I landed Chariot this turn for scouting purposes. You'll probably see our Chariot next turn after I've moved it.

Since we're this close would you be intrested in signing a NAP with us (e.g. until turn 130 or even further) and discussing about settling rights in the island between us.

You probably know this, but Rome's closest city (gained from us) is NE from your border just ~7 tiles away and they are currently probably 1st in power and having an army of ~10 Praetorians+other units.

Best regards,
plako

I wonder if they just found out now the map is toroidal. Regardless even though they are about to cover the N/S part I think they're pretty far away from any E-W circumnavigation. Still hopefully we will be the first for both!

The NAP proposal is certainly worthwhile. Once CoW is done we'll need peace with everybody except hopefully the Inca .

We should contact Rome and ask how long their peace is for with Korea. Once the Inca are gone we may be able to tag team Korea or something.

[athlete4life10]

Kalin,

I've sent a quick acknowledgement to Korea and drafted up an e-mail to Rome. Edit/send as you see fit but the draft gets the main points I think we should communicate.

Athlete

[kalin]

Kalin,

I've sent a quick acknowledgement to Korea and drafted up an e-mail to Rome. Edit/send as you see fit but the draft gets the main points I think we should communicate.

Athlete

Both messages look good.

I agree that splitting the land with Korea is a good idea. With all the land we have it's good to make sure that some of it is reserved so that we can settle the best spots first, rather than rushing to grab land that someone else may get. It does look like we may have to fight Korea at some point so sharing islands seem like a good idea.

Kalin

[athlete4life10]

E-mail sent to Rome:

Hello Emperor Whosit,

Thanks for the congratulatory message on Yavin IV. The only downfall
looks to be the Empire has found the Hidden Base already! By the
looks of things your war with Korea was quite successful, 2 cities
with 0 casualties! Very impressive!!!

Down to the matter at hand Korea has begun scouting the exterior sea
and has discovered the toroidal wrap. I'm not sure if they knew before
or not but their e-mail suggests they have just discovered it. Anyways
they have sent us an e-mail requesting a long NAP tied to a land
partition of the islands between us. We wanted to clarify your peace
deal with them and would try and tie our deal to roughly the same
length as yours. We were thinking of something till roughly T150 with
a 10 - 15 turn cooldown. This should allow us some time to coordinate
against the Inca after CoW is complete. What are your thoughts?

Athlete for A/K
The Rebel Alliance

[athlete4life10]

A response from Rome:

Dear Athlete and Kalin,

Well, technically speaking, I have not located Yavin IV yet, but it's existence is known to me. Same difference, I suppose.

Interesting news about Korea's explorations. I had been wondering where that Galley went. I knew that they had begun fleeing to the outer islands, and it sounds like they will continue to colonize them. I will have my own Galley ready in a few turns, so I should be able to make some of my own explorations. Now, when you say that they have discovered the world wrap, does this mean that there is a north-south water passage along the outer continent? If that is the case, I will try to sail that way, as well.

My NAP with them will last until T150, so that is a good date. The other parts of our peace deal are not particularly relevant to our situation, although I did secure settling rights to the main river in the region. I am not exactly sure where I will be in sixty turns. I need to spend some time developing my economy, and trying to expand further east when I can afford to. I do not really want to start the war against the Inca before I am reasonably secure in my holdings to the east, especially so I will not have to trek through uninhabited wastelands to get there. A naval landing may be possible, as well.

Best regards,

Whosit, Galactic Emperor

I'll get a draft done up for Korea and a response for Rome a bit later.

[athlete4life10]

An e-mail sent off to Korea:

Hello Plako and Broker,

We would be happy to have a long term NAP and peace agreement with
you. We propose one that would look like this. An NAP that lasts until
T150 with automatic renewals every turn thereafter. There should be a
10 turn cancellation period, so the earliest it can be canceled will
be T140. However, we would like to link this NAP to an agreement on a
land partition that suits us both. Are you close to settling any of
the islands around the perimeter? We are slowly beginning to scout the
exterior so you are slightly ahead of us in that department. How does
the above proposal sound to you?

Looking forward to your response,


Athlete for A/K
Ottomans

And one off to Rome:

Dear Whosit,


> Interesting news about Korea's explorations. I had been wondering where that
> Galley went. I knew that they had begun fleeing to the outer islands, and it
> sounds like they will continue to colonize them. I will have my own Galley
> ready in a few turns, so I should be able to make some of my own
> explorations. Now, when you say that they have discovered the world wrap,
> does this mean that there is a north-south water passage along the outer
> continent? If that is the case, I will try to sail that way, as well.


By the way they worded it they have landed a unit on an Island and can
see the fringe of our borders. We can now see the unit given that it's
the next turn already. Does that mean there's a water passage? We're
not 100% sure but we certainly expect their to be. Do you have any
galleys on the inner sea yet? We are probably only a few turns away
from getting our first port on the inner sea.


> My NAP with them will last until T150, so that is a good date. The other
> parts of our peace deal are not particularly relevant to our situation,
> although I did secure settling rights to the main river in the region. I am
> not exactly sure where I will be in sixty turns. I need to spend some time
> developing my economy, and trying to expand further east when I can afford
> to. I do not really want to start the war against the Inca before I am
> reasonably secure in my holdings to the east, especially so I will not have
> to trek through uninhabited wastelands to get there. A naval landing may be
> possible, as well.


While we both have good land to settle, we shouldn't postpone the war
on the Incas for too long. If we are not entirely prepared neither
will they be! I think the best period for an attack will be while the
Praetorians still rule. But for now, let's wait and see how the CoW
war will unfold. If things go well, the army can go directly to the
Incas. No need to keep a standing army without a job.


Athlete for A/K
The Rebel Alliance

[athlete4life10]

Just a side note, India has been taking their time a lot recently with playing their turn. I'm certain the reason for this is atleast 2-fold. To allow more time for diplomacy as they try and secure any NAP's they're after (which they won't be able to) and/or as they plan to attack a neighbour, and to try and make sense of their C&D department.

[athlete4life10]

E-mail from Rome:

Dear Athlete and Kalin,

A brief reply to your message:

I just finished a Galley, and have landed a unit on the inner island to begin scouting. I have not seen much yet, but so far it appears to be filled with dense jungle.
I will have a Galley on the outer sea in a few turns, and I will try to find a direct water passage to your territory.

Part of the reason I want, even need, to delay an attack on the Inca is because I am going to need some time to work on my economy. Nearly all of my early cities were founded with production as a priority, so it will be some time before I can afford another major assault. Honestly, going after Sullla is going to be stretching it, but it needs to be done. As Nar Shaddaa and Ryloth develop, my economy should improve, but that will still take some time.


Best regards,

Whosit, Galactic Emperor

And our response:

Dear Whosit,

It looks like all is good

We also have a fishing boat trying to find a direct water passage to your territory so that we can get trade routes and can exchange resources. That may be the easiest and fastest way.

It's good you landed on the central island already. Please keep us posted. We will also get a port on the inner sea soon and start working in that direction.

> Part of the reason I want, even need, to delay an attack on the Inca is
> because I am going to need some time to work on my economy. Nearly all of my
> early cities were founded with production as a priority, so it will be some
> time before I can afford another major assault. Honestly, going after Sullla
> is going to be stretching it, but it needs to be done. As Nar Shaddaa and
> Ryloth develop, my economy should improve, but that will still take some
> time.

We perfectly understand. We definitely don't want to rush into an attack. In any case we have a pretty long NAP with them (until T130 at least). Let's see how things are developing, but we should be able to give you some help to recover your economy not too far in the future. Some money from pillaging and city captures will also help a lot. I don't know where you are with research, but I think you'll want to get writing asap to get some specialists going.

Best,
Kalin for Team A/K of the Ottomans

I'm not sure how much we'll be able to help. I'm hoping that's just ally talk . Also I don't know how he can have an economy not in good shape. He's got 5 or 6 cities so he's in decent shape. Not really worse than ours and apart from India I think we have a good economy relatively speaking but with tons more potential. Anyways we'll see.

[athlete4life10]

E-mail received from Korea:

Hi Athlete and Kalin,

This all sounds very good. We've actually settled an island west from the island where our Chariot is now and we're looking for new places to settle, but it will take some time before our next settler is ready so we'll have plenty of time to negotiate about our border. Whosit has cut our possibilities for expansion in the main land (There is only room for one mediocore city for us) so we had to find other places for our cities from the islands. We can finalize our deal when we both know more about the island in question.

Best regards,
plako

It's slightly disappointing Rome couldn't finish Korea off early but given how quickly they managed to secure an island settlement it was a great decision to get peace so he can send the praets to India for the CoW.

[athlete4life10]

HRE to CoW:

Dear Friends,

Dantski and I had a good discussion today.
We decided to attack Gettysburg first, or at least, pillage everything in sight.
Dantski will declare at t100 and we'll join after t105, to honor our pact with India.
That leaves Antietam and the new Indian city for The Empire's preatorians.
The new city will make the arrival of the preats a few turns sooner, I think.
I do believe India should be very lightly defended there, so the Preats will hopefully enjoy a "walk in the parc" and take 2 or 3 cities there while we keep them busy in their core.

So far, so good!
Nakor of HRE

Rome to CoW:

Dear Friends and Allies,

It sounds like the plan is shaping up. Bib Fortuna is returning from Killer Angel territory, so I have some intel on Gettysburg. I'm not sure how much all of you know, so please bear with me if this is already known. The capital is on a hill and currently has 40% defense bonuses. It is currently garrisoned by 2 Archers and an Axeman. If the Archers have City Garrison I and are fully fortified, their effective strength is 8.55. If the Axemen have Combat I and fortification, they are 10 against non-melee units, and 11.25 vs. Melee units. An attacking Swordsman with City Raider I has an effective strength of 7.8 for comparison. Based on this, a direct assault on the city without siege weapons may be a waste unless Sullla empties the city for some reason. Note that city walls will increase the defenses considerably. However, there are a number of maturing hamlets and villages that are surely ripe for plunder. The city can also be approached from the south while remaining on hills, although it's flatland north of that.

If Sullla and Speaker's newest city is indeed further south than Fredericksburg, it would make an inviting target for an ambhibious raid (depending on the odds and number of defenders). Though considering the -25% penalty, a landing may be in order. Any additional information on the terrain surrounding this new city would be appreciated. My plan would be to raze the city, and then march onward once my troops have healed, if necessary. Or at least, enough of them are healthy to protect the rest. Depending on the local response, it might even be appropriate to sail up to Fredericksburg anyway, though I imagine that it will have stronger defenses at that point.

On an unrelated note, I would like to announce that I have landed an exploratory team on the central island. Supposing that I can accurately claim that I am the first one there, I hereby dub the island "Centralia." The name may be lame, but I got there first. =P I would post this in the public player thread, but there's no reason to announce to Sullla that I am building a fleet on the inner sea. Hmm, maybe we should call that the "Azure Ring" while we're naming things. And "Sapphire Sea" for the outer sea? Or perhaps "Lazuline Ocean." Alright, enough of that tangent. I've just gotten bored with "inner sea" and "outer sea."

In any case, I will hope that we will see a handful of early victories, but let's plan as much as possible beforehand.


To victory,

Whosit, Galactic Emperor