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regoarrarr Wrote:Do we want peace? I'd say peace benefits them more. We can kill their chariot.
They can pillage our Rice, and prevent us from refounding t-shirt contest.
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Well Masonry seems a pretty cheap price for peace, IF they agree to not give Exploit the chariot. Heck, considering how far away Maya is and the No Tech Brokering rule I'd probably give them Hunting and Masonry if they gave us peace and the chariot.
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I talked to rego, he said he was okay with it. I defer to you if you want to offer it in game, but we don't have a letter to them so they'd be free to do whatever with the Chariot. They could also re-declare in 10 turns but by then we'd be much better prepared  .
I'd make them tech Hunting though.
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I think we should email the Mayans asking for peace and no chariot gifting in exchange for masonry, and (subject to team agreement) peace+both techs in exchange for a NAP and the chariot. With an NAP Holkans half a world away hurts us not at all. I don't want to make the offer in game though because there is too great of a risk they will accept and then "not notice" the requirement to not gift the chariot.
My plan for this turn:
![[Image: Civ4ScreenShot1006.JPG]](http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3729922/Civ4ScreenShot1006.JPG)
2 workers already roaded, and they will finish the horse road this turn. Another worker can chop a forest to completion, but I want to save that for chariots next turn. So I want to have him put 1t of roading into Karaoke and have the worker from the cap reposition this turn. I hate burning a worker turn, but I'd rather have him 1 tile west than make a totally unless road 1N of the cap.
Demos for regoarrarr:
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PS - The chariot moved exactly as I guessed last turn. I don't think it can cause much harm now, barring really good luck when we hit it with 2 chars of our own.
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It all looks good to me sunrise, although I still want some Granaries .
rego, you want to draft a letter to the Mayans or you want me to give it a whirl? Also need to setup a chat with Portugal re: Exploit. They should know by now if he has Copper. We definitely want to coordinate better than was done in RPB2!
They look online now but they are not responding to my messages  .
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Okay, talked to Portugal. Part I was trying to guide them to Ruff. Part 2 was conflicts. THey don't have Horse and won't be making Copper units for several turns, so stopping Exploit is definitely on us. Exploit does NOT have Copper. On the down side, Babylon has Writing. So taking out Exploit might only slow those guys downs a few turns. But we shoudl still do it of course.
HRE wants to wait for HAs to take on Rome, but Portugal wants to go ASAP. My guess is after we clean out Exploit and drive back the Mayans (no pressure sunrise), we'll have a choice to make. Do we want to make the 2v1 against Rome a 3v1 or not?
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Can we see if Exploit has any trade connections with anyone we know? I guess Rome would be the only one unless he has it through the desert. Do either of them have Sailing?
Don't want to have Rome give him copper, of course. How do you know Babylon has Writing?
I will draft a note to Maya in about 2-3 hours unless you do one sooner
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From what I can tell in game, CAN has exclusive rights to Sailing. Of course we don't see everyone! CANT doesn't seem to prioritize Hunting either .
Intel on Babylon came from Portugal.
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Draft for Mayans. Rego feel free to modify as you think best:
Quote:So, no doubt you've seen the flurry of tech trades that just happened. Too bad you couldn't have been a part of it :-P. We are willing to offer you peace for Masonry. TBH, we are highly confident your attack has done all the damage it is going to do, we just want to focus resources on Granaries rather than Horse Archers. Along with peace we want a NAP of 20 turns and a pledge not to gift the Chariot to another civilization.
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Note from Ruff:
Quote:Apparently Inca has dialed up Ottoman and asked for peace. They haven't contacted me. If I sign peace, then it will throw some of their units out of my land towards India. I am sure you don't want that.
I can hunt them down and kill them. Also, keeping them in a war might stop them doing what Inca should have been doing (settler spam). What do you guys think?
At a minimum, I am going to ask for war reparations (2 farms, 1 mine destroyed).
Ruff
Draft reply:
Quote:I think we are better off making peace, building up, then killing them later. However, we can't survive an attack from them. I think the best thing is if it is a trilateral peace treaty that includes a NAP with India.
Darrell
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